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re: Bitcoins were hacked yesterday?

Posted on 4/4/13 at 12:27 pm to
Posted by Broke
AKA Buttercup
Member since Sep 2006
65042 posts
Posted on 4/4/13 at 12:27 pm to
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Dollars are really backed up by faith in the economy,


Right. As a reflection of either a strong or weak GDP. The bitcoin economy at this point consists of haxors and butt pirates.
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 4/4/13 at 12:28 pm to
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DDoS' happen every day to many websites, and it is simply an attacker using a botnet to overload a website. Usually the goal is to cost the victim money due to website down time (in effect holding it hostage), but in this case the goal was to create a panic sell-off.


Looks like Russian finally figured out a way to short bitcoins.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28703 posts
Posted on 4/4/13 at 12:32 pm to
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Why? What will it give you? A printout of a piece of paper with an encrypted code, that the lady at Wal-Mart will subsequently rip up when you try to pay for your Twinkies and pot pies.

It would function as a currency exchange. It will give you dollars and withdraw the equivalent bitcoins from your wallet, and it would probably let you put in dollars and deposit the equivalent into your bitcoin wallet.
Posted by Broke
AKA Buttercup
Member since Sep 2006
65042 posts
Posted on 4/4/13 at 12:34 pm to
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It will give you dollars and withdraw the equivalent bitcoins from your wallet, and it would probably let you put in dollars and deposit the equivalent into your bitcoin wallet.


Then why even frick with bitcoin if the end result is the USD? Am I missing something? Does bitcoin give free blowjobs or something?
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
80087 posts
Posted on 4/4/13 at 12:35 pm to
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Then why even frick with bitcoin if the end result is the USD? Am I missing something? Does bitcoin give free blowjobs or something?


Bc if the US dollar crashes, you always have your bitcoins that you can trade out for yen to use in the US


Oh yeah, and it cant be frozen.... Oh Wait
This post was edited on 4/4/13 at 12:36 pm
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28703 posts
Posted on 4/4/13 at 12:56 pm to
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Then why even frick with bitcoin if the end result is the USD? Am I missing something? Does bitcoin give free blowjobs or something?

Yeah, you're missing the part where you have to use whatever currency is accepted wherever you are. Think of bitcoin as the currency of a virtual nation. These ATMs will exchange currency for you. Why do we even frick with regular ATMs? Because sometimes you just can't use a card or check.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126940 posts
Posted on 4/4/13 at 1:12 pm to
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Looks like Russian finally figured out a way to short bitcoins.



Shhhhhhhhh.......
Posted by joshnorris14
Florida
Member since Jan 2009
45194 posts
Posted on 4/4/13 at 1:18 pm to
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Why? What will it give you? A printout of a piece of paper with an encrypted code, that the lady at Wal-Mart will subsequently rip up when you try to pay for your Twinkies and pot pies.


1. You can put in cash (or debit cards, not sure how that will work) and scan the QR code of your wallet (or enter the key of your wallet) and bitcoins will be deposited into your account.

OR

2. Send your bitcoins and extract cash from the ATM

Also, the first one will be in LA.
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
80087 posts
Posted on 4/4/13 at 1:20 pm to
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Also, the first one will be in LA.


And it will be heavily taxed and regulated by the Govt...

All the joys y'all claimed bitcoins avoided
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126940 posts
Posted on 4/4/13 at 1:22 pm to
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Think of bitcoin as the currency of a virtual nation.
Nah, it's more like a virtual gold. It's not currency but it can be exchanged to get currency when you need to buy something.

The same people who have been preaching gold is the best answer for sticking it to the Federal Reserve and the 'gubmint' for years on this board are now preaching bitcoins.

Except gold actually exists......
Posted by joshnorris14
Florida
Member since Jan 2009
45194 posts
Posted on 4/4/13 at 1:23 pm to
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All the joys y'all claimed bitcoins avoided


Do you enjoy creating strawmans this much?

Right, you can be heavily taxed and regulated using bitcoin if you choose to use it that way. If you choose to do it pseudonymously you can work around that.

It gives you the option to be pseudonymous, it doesn't do it for you though.

Plus, those were never among the reasons I've liked bitcoin, you can check my post history if you'd like.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28703 posts
Posted on 4/4/13 at 1:34 pm to
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Nah, it's more like a virtual gold. It's not currency but it can be exchanged to get currency when you need to buy something.

A valid criticism, and the main reason I think it will be difficult for bitcoin to move out of experimental territory and into mainstream use. It is very successful as far as experiments go, and I think it's a good proof of concept.
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Except gold actually exists......

This criticism is less valid, I think. Do your digital photos not exist?
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126940 posts
Posted on 4/4/13 at 1:36 pm to
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Do your digital photos not exist?

Not like gold does.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28703 posts
Posted on 4/4/13 at 1:40 pm to
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Not like gold does.

What about your intellectual property? Does it exist? Does it have value?
Posted by Putty
Member since Oct 2003
25482 posts
Posted on 4/4/13 at 1:42 pm to
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That's what it sounds like. I'm so relieved.


screw that...I'm putting everything back into dinar.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126940 posts
Posted on 4/4/13 at 1:43 pm to
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Does it exist? Does it have value?

Not according to the bitcoin true believers.
Posted by joshnorris14
Florida
Member since Jan 2009
45194 posts
Posted on 4/4/13 at 1:44 pm to
Bitcoins are not intellectual property.
Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
27816 posts
Posted on 4/4/13 at 1:50 pm to
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Bitcoins are not intellectual property


why do you say that? Why is a hash different than words in a book?
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28703 posts
Posted on 4/4/13 at 1:51 pm to
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Not according to the bitcoin true believers.

I was asking you what you believe. Can a concept, idea, information, or anything that doesn't physically exist have value? Surely your answer is "yes".

This is beside the fact that bitcoins "exist" as bits on hard drives, and can be represented in paper form much like a gold certificate.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28703 posts
Posted on 4/4/13 at 1:53 pm to
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Bitcoins are not intellectual property.

I wasn't saying they are. I used IP as an example because it, like bitcoins, doesn't physically exist, but can still have value.
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