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re: The ATL Thread: Opening Day Edition
Posted on 3/31/13 at 1:49 pm to bamafan425
Posted on 3/31/13 at 1:49 pm to bamafan425
Very Ole Miss of us.
Posted on 3/31/13 at 2:05 pm to Robot Santa
Hey now!
We don't have 14 consecutive division titles.
And, if you must know, no one in Oxford likes that banner. We joke about it more than anyone.
We don't have 14 consecutive division titles.
And, if you must know, no one in Oxford likes that banner. We joke about it more than anyone.
Posted on 3/31/13 at 2:46 pm to NewtonReb
quote:
#Braves smart move: nobody assigned the cursed locker. It's now a cubicle with computer for players
Heyward gets Chipper/Smoltz locker.
Posted on 3/31/13 at 3:20 pm to volfan30
Evan Gattis has switched from number 32 to number 24.
Venters placed on the 15 day DL retroactive to 3/27, Beachy, McCann and Janish on 15 day retroactive to 3/22
Venters placed on the 15 day DL retroactive to 3/27, Beachy, McCann and Janish on 15 day retroactive to 3/22
This post was edited on 3/31/13 at 3:21 pm
Posted on 3/31/13 at 3:38 pm to volfan30
so glad to start off the season on primetime, ESPN
Posted on 3/31/13 at 4:02 pm to Pilot Tiger
Freddi said Gattis could start Wednesday!
Posted on 3/31/13 at 4:15 pm to Pilot Tiger
It's FSS and ESPN 2 outside the area
Posted on 3/31/13 at 4:26 pm to volfan30
its weird, because while everyone else in baseball seems to be adopting the moneyball/sabermetrics strategy of getting guys with good batting averages and on base percentages, the braves are intent on signing guys like Uggla and BJ upton while holding on to McCann and Heyward and getting rid of prado.
I like the signing of Justin Upton, but jesus this team will be frustrating to watch this year.
I like the signing of Justin Upton, but jesus this team will be frustrating to watch this year.
Posted on 3/31/13 at 4:27 pm to broeho
get the frick out of here with this bullshite.
Posted on 3/31/13 at 4:32 pm to broeho
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while holding on to McCann and Heyward and getting rid of prado.
I don't even know what this means. Heyward got on base at a higher rate than Prado last year, in addition to being better at virtually everything else and being cheaper.
Posted on 3/31/13 at 4:39 pm to volfan30
Either catfish has an alter, newbie is trolling, or newbie is just plain fricking dumb
Posted on 3/31/13 at 4:47 pm to volfan30
quote:
I don't even know what this means. Heyward got on base at a higher rate than Prado last year, in addition to being better at virtually everything else and being cheaper.
ehhh no he didn't
I just don't understand why as a gm...
1) you know your team has Uggla, who is a major liability as far as batting average/strikeouts. and 2) You see McCann's batting average dip drastically over 3 years or so.... and 3) you know heyward hit .229 two seasons ago, so he's a risk to hit at a very low average... and 4) you know your most reliable batter for years in chipper is retiring
so you go out and sign BJ Upton, a guy who strikes out all the time and has potential, but has never hit for average minus his rookie season... and you get rid of Prado, a guy who hit .305 last year and is a .295 career hitter.
Why is this such a controversial opinion?
This post was edited on 3/31/13 at 4:50 pm
Posted on 3/31/13 at 5:03 pm to broeho
Looking at the career numbers
Jason Heyward
.352 OBP
Martin Prado
.345 OBP
Jason Heyward
.352 OBP
Martin Prado
.345 OBP
Posted on 3/31/13 at 5:05 pm to broeho
Prado had a higher on base percentage than Heyward last year, but Heyward has a higher one in his career.
For the rest of your post....well, you don't seem to understand the sabermetric approach
For the rest of your post....well, you don't seem to understand the sabermetric approach
Posted on 3/31/13 at 5:16 pm to USAF Hart
Atlanta Braves
Opening Day Roster Playoff Experience
Pitchers
Tim Hudson (1-3, 3.46 ERA, 54.2 IP)
Kris Medlen (0-1, 2.84 ERA, 6.1 IP)
Craig Kimbrel (0-1, 1.69 ERA, 5.1 IP)
Eric O'Flaherty (0-0, 0.00 ERA, 1.0 IP)
Hitters
B.J. Upton (.267 AVG, 7 HR, 18 RBI, 25 GP)
Justin Upton (.265 AVG, 2 HR, 4 RBI, 11 GP)
Gerald Laird (.048 AVG, 0 HR, 0 RBI, 10 GP)
Jason Heyward (.143 AVG, 0 HR, 0 RBI, 5 GP)
Freddie Freeman (.750 AVG, 0 HR, 0 RBI, 1 GP)
Andrelton Simmons (.250 AVG, 0 HR, 0 RBI, 1 GP)
Dan Uggla (.000 AVG, 0 HR, 0 RBI, 1 GP)
Juan Francisco (.000 AVG, 0 HR, 0 RBI, 1 GP)
Opening Day Roster Playoff Experience
Pitchers
Tim Hudson (1-3, 3.46 ERA, 54.2 IP)
Kris Medlen (0-1, 2.84 ERA, 6.1 IP)
Craig Kimbrel (0-1, 1.69 ERA, 5.1 IP)
Eric O'Flaherty (0-0, 0.00 ERA, 1.0 IP)
Hitters
B.J. Upton (.267 AVG, 7 HR, 18 RBI, 25 GP)
Justin Upton (.265 AVG, 2 HR, 4 RBI, 11 GP)
Gerald Laird (.048 AVG, 0 HR, 0 RBI, 10 GP)
Jason Heyward (.143 AVG, 0 HR, 0 RBI, 5 GP)
Freddie Freeman (.750 AVG, 0 HR, 0 RBI, 1 GP)
Andrelton Simmons (.250 AVG, 0 HR, 0 RBI, 1 GP)
Dan Uggla (.000 AVG, 0 HR, 0 RBI, 1 GP)
Juan Francisco (.000 AVG, 0 HR, 0 RBI, 1 GP)
Posted on 3/31/13 at 5:16 pm to volfan30
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B.J. Upton (.267 AVG, 7 HR, 18 RBI, 25 GP)
just pitiful
Posted on 3/31/13 at 5:40 pm to The White Lobster
Heyward is definitely better. He also has huge potentially untapped potential.
The problem is that he may be the braves' most reliable hitter and he still is a career .261 hitter. If he repeats what he did last year, that would be great... and he'd still hit .269. No more bourn (12th best WAR amongst hitters last year). No more Prado (16th best WAR amongst hitters last year. No more chipper. But braves still have uggla (.220), still have mccann (.230), signed bj upton (.243).
I understand if you can't resign some of those guys, but to me Bourn and Prado were two of the most unreplaceable guys in the lineup, and really two of the only truly reliable ones.
The problem is that he may be the braves' most reliable hitter and he still is a career .261 hitter. If he repeats what he did last year, that would be great... and he'd still hit .269. No more bourn (12th best WAR amongst hitters last year). No more Prado (16th best WAR amongst hitters last year. No more chipper. But braves still have uggla (.220), still have mccann (.230), signed bj upton (.243).
I understand if you can't resign some of those guys, but to me Bourn and Prado were two of the most unreplaceable guys in the lineup, and really two of the only truly reliable ones.
This post was edited on 3/31/13 at 5:45 pm
Posted on 3/31/13 at 5:52 pm to broeho
BJ Upton was better than Michael Bourn offensively last season using WAR.
Upton had a 3.4 oWAR and Bourn had a 3.2 oWAR.
Bourn is hardly the poster-boy for the high OBP, low-strikeout rate type team you seem to favor.
Upton had a 3.4 oWAR and Bourn had a 3.2 oWAR.
Bourn is hardly the poster-boy for the high OBP, low-strikeout rate type team you seem to favor.
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