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The moral people would govern themselves and the amoral people would govern themselves. The smart person would govern himself. The dumb person would govern themselves. There would be no overlap.





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DawgfaninCa
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The moral people would govern themselves and the amoral people would govern themselves. The smart person would govern himself. The dumb person would govern themselves. There would be no overlap.


BS. There would be plenty of overlap.

The moral people would constantly have to worry about the amoral people stealing their possessions by using any means necessary to get it.

Ya know, might makes right.




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germandawg
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I do not have any "beliefs"
Of course you do.

e.g., You believe government is "prohibiting gay marriage".


No I don't. I know that Government does not recognize gay marriage due to the electorates opinion that gay marriage is an abomination. That opinion has changed and so has the issue....it is those among us who refuse to evolve who are the problem.






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germandawg
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So are you saying that anything that has to do with a belief and/or faith doesn't exist for you? Love is not something you can actually see or reach out and touch. Does love not exist for you since it is inanimate?


The things that I attach emotions to...love (my children and family) and hate (the Gators) are animate. I do not know of anything that I have any sort of emotional attachment to that does not exist in some physical form. There is no faith or belief in this.






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germandawg
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Aren't you basing the way you conduct your life on your blind belief (faith) that there is no God?


Absolutely not. I do not harbor any such belief. I am more than willing to acknowledge that God could exist, I could be wrong, I just do not care. I base the way I conduct my life on the knowledge that I have to stare into the eyes of the face that I shave every morning (OK, every 3rd or 4th morning). I don't steal things because I know that it is wrong, not because of magicians and bogey men. If there is a God then I am certain that, unless Christians are correct and one must acknowledge the existence of said God because that God is insecure and needy, that I, for the most part, lead a life that is much closer to what a supreme being worthy of love would wish for, than the vast majority of religious believers in my experience. I do this simply because it is the right thing to do and not because I expect some sort of reward when I die. Keeping human beings who care for one another and want to express that care to the world from doing so in the manner that society dictates simply because they happen to urinate in the same manner is simply mean spirited and, if it is god like I want nothing to do with God.






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germandawg
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If anything, the attitude that you hold that there is not one chance in infinity that God exist is a mental illness.
From the dawn of man till now, the vast majority of man has believed in, trusted in or longed for a God of some sort. Even the agnostic, while he doesn't believe, doesn't discount the possibility that God exist.
Kings, Presidents, doctors, lawyers, scientist, chemist, astronauts, laymen, etc. have all believed and still believe in a God, but we are the delusional ones? And the very minute group that you find yourself in that thinks he has found out some rare truth that few can find thinks he is the rational one? The guardian of truth and one of the few sane minds that have somehow escaped the mental illness of belief?
I truly feel sorry for you and all that fall into your group. At best, your greatest dream for the afterlife is that you become worm meat. I feel sorry that you are so blinded by rage in God that you can't even entertain the possibility that he is out there, and instead choose to mock him and all those who seek him. May he have mercy on your soul.


Yes, you are the delusional ones....and the ranks of the believer is getting smaller and smaller every second. For most of the time mankind has existed those same groups you list also believed in witches and ghosts and a flat earth and geocentricity and science has debunked all of these mysteries. It is not uncommon for man, in times of want, to cast about for answers. The atrocities that man has wrought against one another in the name of God and the number of people who have been lead into accepting this behavior because of their adherence to the mysticism of a supreme being is evidence as sound as the earth being round and evolving around the sun that religion and belief is a gateway psychosis.






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Keeping human beings who care for one another and want to express that care to the world from doing so in the manner that society dictates simply because they happen to urinate in the same manner is simply mean spirited and, if it is god like I want nothing to do with God.


Why do they need to express that care to the world? Shouldn't it be just to each other? I don't see it to be very "loving" to call it a "right" and all society must change and view it as the same as the male-female traditional marriage definition. Actually, it's damned selfish to demand others must change while at the same time declaring that you cannot be changed because you were "born that way."
One of the reasons LGBT rights advocates and leftist politicians have used for this is "the benefits of marriage" such as not being "penalized" to pay taxes. WHAT THE frick IS THAT ABOUT WHEN THEY ARE THE VERY PARTY THAT KEEPS CALLING FOR MORE TAXES AND CALL CONSERVATIVES THAT WANT LESS TAXES AND PROGRAMS AS BEING GREEDY. That's some hypocrisy from those lefties. Want more taxes on others while always wanting not to pay more taxes themselves and calling it "unfair" for them to have to pay them.






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Absolutely not. I do not harbor any such belief. I am more than willing to acknowledge that God could exist, I could be wrong, I just do not care. I base the way I conduct my life on the knowledge that I have to stare into the eyes of the face that I shave every morning (OK, every 3rd or 4th morning). I don't steal things because I know that it is wrong, not because of magicians and bogey men. If there is a God then I am certain that, unless Christians are correct and one must acknowledge the existence of said God because that God is insecure and needy, that I, for the most part, lead a life that is much closer to what a supreme being worthy of love would wish for, than the vast majority of religious believers in my experience. I do this simply because it is the right thing to do and not because I expect some sort of reward when I die. Keeping human beings who care for one another and want to express that care to the world from doing so in the manner that society dictates simply because they happen to urinate in the same manner is simply mean spirited and, if it is god like I want nothing to do with God.


You know not what you speak...

"I could be wrong" followed by "I just don't care"


Wow! I am surprised by what even unbelievers allow to come out of their mouths.

Study the earth (and universe) and all life on earth and then ponder "how did all of this get here?"

If you say big bang, (random luck) then please check yourself into a mental health Care Center.






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DawgfaninCa
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Aren't you basing the way you conduct your life on your blind belief (faith) that there is no God?


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Absolutely not. I do not harbor any such belief. I am more than willing to acknowledge that God could exist, I could be wrong, I just do not care.


Now you are claiming that you are an agnostic.

If that is the case then why do you think that the people who do believe God exists are mentally ill?

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I don't steal things because I know that it is wrong... I do this simply because it is the right thing to do...


How do you know stealing is always wrong?

Would it be wrong or right to steal money from someone who is a spoiled brat and inherited tons of money that they didn't work a lick for and give it to a poor hard working mother and/or father who had no money to feed their children?








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DawgfaninCa
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No I don't. I know that Government does not recognize gay marriage due to the electorates opinion that gay marriage is an abomination. That opinion has changed and so has the issue....it is those among us who refuse to evolve who are the problem.


Even if everyone on the planet didn't believe something is the truth that would not negate the fact that it would still be the truth.









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germandawg
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Why do they need to express that care to the world? Shouldn't it be just to each other? I don't see it to be very "loving" to call it a "right" and all society must change and view it as the same as the male-female traditional marriage definition. Actually, it's damned selfish to demand others must change while at the same time declaring that you cannot be changed because you were "born that way."
One of the reasons LGBT rights advocates and leftist politicians have used for this is "the benefits of marriage" such as not being "penalized" to pay taxes. WHAT THE frick IS THAT ABOUT WHEN THEY ARE THE VERY PARTY THAT KEEPS CALLING FOR MORE TAXES AND CALL CONSERVATIVES THAT WANT LESS TAXES AND PROGRAMS AS BEING GREEDY. That's some hypocrisy from those lefties. Want more taxes on others while always wanting not to pay more taxes themselves and calling it "unfair" for them to have to pay them.



Why should they not express that to the world just like heterosexual couples do? What right does the state have preventing them from doing so and, at the same time, not allowing them the same rights and benefits as heterosexual couples? The answer is none.

No one gives a dam if society changes...the civil rights act did not end ignorance and prejudice and only an idiot would assume that as soon as gay people are allowed to marry that him-phobia will cease to exist. It is n't about changing society, society changes at its one pace and in its own time. Laws, however, go into effect pretty soon after they are passed and that is all the state has the right to do, pass and enforce laws. Society can change or not but the state has no business discriminating against any group in the area of benefits and rights, period.

Your last statement about taxes and right versus left is an interesting concept. It spells out a fundamental difference between the left and the right that I think many have overlooked. I know I never thought of it until you brought iy up. SO your saying that the right is willing to discriminate and take away freedoms that others enjoy based on their ideology (homosexuality is wrong and even an abomination) while the left is willing to forego a pretty strong tenet of their own ideology (taxing everything in site) in the interest of extending rights and benefits that others expect as their due to all groups. So your premise is that the right is unable and unwilling to adapt and change their philosophy in the interests of what right and wrong while the left is able and willing to do so. INTERESTING.....






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Now you are claiming that you are an agnostic.

If that is the case then why do you think that the people who do believe God exists are mentally ill?


We are all agnostic by definition. Atheists who claim to know for certain that there is no supreme being and base their life on this knowledge are every bit as crazy as believers who make just the opposite claim. The thing is that the number of atheists who are crazy is minuscule compared to the collective mental illness of the believers in the world. Add this to the fact that there has never been a war fought in the name of atheism and there has never been a group suicide based on atheistic principles and it is pretty easy to see that atheist crazy is way more manageable than believer crazy.....






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How do you know stealing is always wrong?

Would it be wrong or right to steal money from someone who is a spoiled brat and inherited tons of money that they didn't work a lick for and give it to a poor hard working mother and/or father who had no money to feed their children?



Stealing is always wrong. Taxes are not theft because it is condoned by the state any more than the death penalty is murder.






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Taxes are not theft because it is condoned by the state


Who is the state?






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DawgfaninCa
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Stealing is always wrong. Taxes are not theft because it is condoned by the state any more than the death penalty is murder.


I wasn't referring to taxes. I was referring to stealing money from a spoiled brat who never worked a day in their life but has tons of money that was given to them.








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TexasTiger1185
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I'll tell you this, I don't give two fricks about queers getting married, but I can't stand the in your face attitude that has pervaded the media these past few weeks.


This would never have happened if more people would just accept it as a way of life. They wouldn't have to be 'in your face'.

Blacks were 'in your face' about civil rights one time too. They don't have a choice, if they want to get married they have to fight hard because there are so many people against it.






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Blacks were 'in your face' about civil rights one time too.


Pedophiles are starting to use that tactic also.






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TexasTiger1185
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Would it be wrong or right to steal money from someone who is a spoiled brat and inherited tons of money that they didn't work a lick for and give it to a poor hard working mother and/or father who had no money to feed their children?


Yes. Someone worked for that money, and worked hard enough to make enough to pass it on to their children. You are stealing from both the spoiled brat and from his family who previously worked for their money.

If the poor kid stole a loaf of bread, I could excuse it.






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