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Posted on 7/27/13 at 6:00 pm to
Posted by Mr Gardoki
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Posted on 7/27/13 at 6:00 pm to
Yea I plan on doing that too for that reason. I might even do it for my ps3.

Blue, what do you mean by A- panels?
Posted by bluebarracuda
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Posted on 7/27/13 at 6:02 pm to
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Blue, what do you mean by A- panels?


There's more backlight bleed. Not that big of a deal IMO
Posted by Mr Gardoki
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Posted on 7/27/13 at 6:07 pm to
The backlight bleed on mine drives me crazy.
Posted by stout
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Posted on 7/27/13 at 6:16 pm to
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Yea I plan on doing that too for that reason. I might even do it for my ps3.



The dust that builds up in laptops and any machine with fans is nuts. This thing is 2 years old and I couldn't believe how bad it was. I got the 91% iso out and cleaned the shite out of everything.
Posted by LSU Coyote
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 7/27/13 at 7:07 pm to
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have never been able to get the docking station on this 650D to work. Any ideas?

The hot swap?

Open Disk Manager to add a new drive.
Posted by ivoryg37
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Posted on 7/28/13 at 6:05 am to
Just in case someone need any of these ill post it here just in case. Extra stuff I have sitting in my closet.
AsRock Extreme4-m complete with box
Antec ISK 110 ITX case
2x4gb Kingston Hyper X 1600
Crucial M4 128gb SSD
This post was edited on 7/28/13 at 12:41 pm
Posted by Mr Gardoki
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Posted on 7/28/13 at 9:33 am to
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There's more backlight bleed. Not that big of a deal IMO

To follow this topic up, if I wanted to avoid backlight bleed as much as possible what should I be looking for? How much of a price difference am I looking at? I am kind of a picture junky, once I notice these things, it's hard for me to overlook.
Posted by bluebarracuda
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Posted on 7/28/13 at 12:42 pm to
I don't understand how you see it while playing games

The only way not to get backlight bleed is to pay a lot more for an apple, dell or high named brand
Posted by ivoryg37
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Posted on 7/28/13 at 12:45 pm to
If you're getting a korean brand then it is hit or miss. I recommend QNIX though cause of the overclocking. You can also sort of fix the backlight bleeding on them easier than other brands. Here is a guide someone did LINK
This post was edited on 7/28/13 at 12:46 pm
Posted by ILikeLSUToo
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Posted on 7/28/13 at 2:19 pm to
Wow, I didn't know the backlight bleed was that bad on the PLS panels. Was just googling pictures of it and some of them looked really bad, like this one:



I don't have a PLS Panel, but I have a QNIX. It's the QX2700 IPS glossy panel, perfect pixel. It had a very mild amount of backlight bleed -- not even enough for me to care, but I saw how easy it was to remove the panel so I went ahead and added a few more screws to the metal frame that holds the panel. Made sure they were all equally tight (but not overtightened) and all is well. I paid $350 (more than the PLS panels are going for), but it's essentially flawless.
Posted by Mr Gardoki
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Posted on 7/28/13 at 2:30 pm to
I guess it isn't that bad now that I think of it. What does bother me is viewing angle. I feel like the corners are a different shade because of it. How is it on the 27" monitors?

eta: I say this coming from a guy that has watched plasma tv's for years that are known for great viewing angles.
This post was edited on 7/28/13 at 2:31 pm
Posted by ILikeLSUToo
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Posted on 7/28/13 at 4:13 pm to
Interesting test done at Sidewinder Computers, my favorite store for watercooling gear.

LINK

It's no big shock or secret that the pushpin mount, which intel started using with LGA775 and beyond, is part of the reason why Intel stock coolers have shitty performance. Doesn't provide near the amount of solid contact/pressure you get from aftermarket coolers, which tend to use backplates, screws, and springs for maximum tension and even pressure.

Sidewinder is selling a $5.99 kit that provides a backplate for LGA 1155/1156/1150 and screws to replace the pushpins on the stock Intel cooler.

In the test (linked above), they used a cheap thermal pad as TIM, and saw a 9-10C temp reduction under Prime95 load when using that backplate/screw kit.

I've seen such a thing done before on LGA 775 but it's become much more relevant now because of the poorer thermal performance in IB/Haswell due to the non-soldered IHS.

Mostly, this article demonstrates to the newbies here why we adamantly push aftermarket cooling on new builds. The backplate/screw kit changes the stock cooler from "unacceptable" to "acceptable," but the backplate kit is a bit over $8 with first class shipping, plus you'd probably need to buy TIM or that thermal pad, because the stock TIM also contributes to the poor performance. You might spend $10-15 to convert your stock cooler to something decent, so you might as well cough up an extra $10-15 on something even better.

However, this might be an excellent inexpensive solution for anyone building a mATX or ITX Intel system.
Posted by LSUTigerfaninHtown
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Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 7/28/13 at 7:22 pm to
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Wow, I didn't know the backlight bleed was that bad on the PLS panels. Was just googling pictures of it and some of them looked really bad, like this one:

Wow, I sincerely hope that I'm not that unfortunate. I will be finding out soon enough...
This post was edited on 7/28/13 at 7:24 pm
Posted by finchmeister08
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 7/28/13 at 7:28 pm to
How do i stretch my screen out to fit my monitor? Ive got a black border around my screen.
Posted by Mr Gardoki
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Posted on 7/28/13 at 7:28 pm to
I think that was an extreme case
Posted by LSUTigerfaninHtown
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Posted on 7/28/13 at 7:30 pm to
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How do i stretch my screen out to fit my monitor? Ive got a black border around my screen.

Have you downloaded the latest drivers for your video card?
Posted by finchmeister08
Member since Mar 2011
35584 posts
Posted on 7/28/13 at 8:21 pm to
should be. everything is at 1080p. i just can't get it to stretch out.
Posted by ILikeLSUToo
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Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 7/28/13 at 8:30 pm to
Should be? You either installed the software manually or else it's not there.

And it goes without saying your chipset drivers and other on board device drivers should be installed.

And of course, your monitor needs to be connected directly to the graphics card. DVI

Just trying to cover everything.
This post was edited on 7/28/13 at 8:33 pm
Posted by stout
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Posted on 7/28/13 at 8:31 pm to
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How do i stretch my screen out to fit my monitor? Ive got a black border around my screen.



What are your in-game video settings? Do you have them set to match the monitor resolution?
Posted by finchmeister08
Member since Mar 2011
35584 posts
Posted on 7/28/13 at 8:54 pm to
I finally got it. I had to mess with the scaling in the amd tab in my display setting in the control panel.
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