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koLSU86
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re: Mingo in the first, Tyrann in the third. Deal with it


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I know you stated this position before and got your arse handed to you...and rightfully so. Mathieu was never a great tackler; I mean never. To compare him to Sanders is a joke. The only thing they would have in common, if Tyrann did play Safety, is that they both would have more rehab time than a crack whore who held back on the cash.


Mathieu made some ridiculous open field tackles at LSU. I'm not sure where you're getting that he isn't a good tackler.






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LSUsaintsfanla
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re: Mingo in the first, Tyrann in the third. Deal with it


Fox wtf makes you think tm7 is destin for us..... It's a terrible idea





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jralspanky
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re: Mingo in the first, Tyrann in the third. Deal with it


Saints have too many needs to gamble on TM7





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EarthwormJim
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Saints have too many needs to gamble on TM7


Any player taken around where Mathieu will go will be a gamble.

If the Saints feel he has matured and his playmaking abilities will translate to the NFL then I have no problem with that pick.

His skill on the football field is undeniable.






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jralspanky
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re: Mingo in the first, Tyrann in the third. Deal with it


TM7 is a playmaker but there are better cover corners in the 3rd.............

Players taken in any round are gambles, ask the Raiders about Mr. Russell






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Brettesaurus Rex
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Message Posted by jralspanky Saints have too many needs to gamble on TM7


Just curious, who would you rather in the third?

TM fills a nickel, safety, PR (maybe KR) need. You call that a gamble, I call it a steal. Someone who can lock the slot down, be a defensive and special teams gamechanger all in the third round? If that's a bet I'll make it all day over some small school corner that most people seem to have us mocked getting.






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EarthwormJim
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TM7 is a playmaker but there are better cover corners in the 3rd.............


If we sign Asomugha/Porter I'd be comfortable with our guys on the outisde in man. Mathieu would bring a lot more than just his coverage skills to a defense in search of playmakers.






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jralspanky
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re: Mingo in the first, Tyrann in the third. Deal with it


Brandon Williams, DT – Missouri Southern

If it's a corner.......
Robert Alford,CB Southeastern Louisiana
Blidi Wreh Wilson, - CB – Connecticut






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Insolideaux
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re: Mingo in the first, Tyrann in the third. Deal with it


I don't think Mingo will be around at 15, I think his hype will continue to increase up to draft day and someone will snag him in the top 10-12.

As for TM7, i think the "gamble" is worth it in the 3rd round.






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Billy Mays
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Brandon Williams, DT – Missouri Southern


If we could get him in the 3rd, I would JIMP. We need a NT of the future.

Our staff has already met with him already as well, and we know Loomis loves the small-school guys with a chip on their shoulder.



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Brettesaurus Rex
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Brandon Williams, DT – Missouri Southern If it's a corner....... Robert Alford,CB Southeastern Louisiana Blidi Wreh Wilson, - CB – Connecticut


All of these guys are a hell of a lot more a gamble than Mathieu IMO. He's a proven star at the highest level of college competition in the toughest conference.

Regardless of whatever team he goes to, I can't wait to see him play again. How many people can you say that about? Very few people in the history of college football made as many plays as he did in only two years. But yeah he's a risk..so lets go with some guy from Southeastern instead just to prove a point.






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Byron Bojangles III
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re: Mingo in the first, Tyrann in the third. Deal with it


We don't have a PR need





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Brettesaurus Rex
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re: Mingo in the first, Tyrann in the third. Deal with it


I wouldn't call it a need, but Sproles is almost 30 now. I'd rather a younger fresher guy back there. Sproles was electric in 11 but regressed pretty badly last year. He will obviously still shine as a runner/receiver.





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Hugo Stiglitz
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re: Mingo in the first, Tyrann in the third. Deal with it


About a 1 in 500 chance of this happening.

We still need a LT and we have no money.






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Billy Mays
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If TM7 is on the board when we draft in round 3. I'm 100% sure we take him.








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Brettesaurus Rex
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re: Mingo in the first, Tyrann in the third. Deal with it


If you're responding to the original post, then yeah I know it's a long shot we nab both.

If this more recent one, then I don't see how a 3rd rounder affects the LT position. I think we shore it up through FA and let them and Brown battle for the spot.






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mm2316
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Sproles was electric in 11 but regressed pretty badly last year.

I'm blaming it on the play calling last year, rather than him regressing.






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JS87
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Saints have too many needs to gamble on TM7


I don't think it is a gamble at all.






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jamal
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Round One Pick 15: Barkevious Mingo, OLB, Louisiana State University
The Saints announced earlier in the offseason that they are moving to a 3-4 defense, and with the hiring of Rob Ryan, that all but ensures that they will be in 2013. The Saints have pretty much no pass rush as guys like Will Smith and Cameron Jordan didn’t produce much in 2012, and neither is a fit at Outside Linebacker anyways. Barkevious Mingo would be a perfect fit in Ryan’s defense to be that edge rusher whose main priority is to just fly off the ball and get after the quarterback. Mingo didn’t produce as many sacks in 2012, but if you wacth the tape, you see that he wasn’t asked to get after the quarterback as much as he was in 2011. Mingo has all kinds of potential, and could be a major steal at 15.
Round Three Pick 75: David Amerson, CB/FS, North Carolina State
Prior to the 2012 college football season, David Amerson was herald as one of the best, if not the best Cornerbacks in this year’s draft. Some poor performance and injury concerns have dropped him into mid-2nd to 3rd round consideration, but he still has the potential to be a quality player, and would fit nicely at Free Safety for the Saints.
Round Four Pick 109: Brandon Jenkins, DE/OLB, Florida State University
Had Brandon Jenkins come out in the 2012 NFL Draft, he likely would have been a 1st or 2nd round selection, but due to a bad Lisfranc injury that took him out of all of the 2013 season, he falls in this year’s draft. Jenkins flashed a lot of really good potential in his 2011 tape, and looked like a perfect fit at 3-4 OLB. Paired with Mingo, the Saints could have a deadly duo at OLB, much like the Steelers had with Harrison and Woodley.
Round Five Pick 144: Blidi Wreh-Wilson, CB, University of Connecticut
Wilson is one of my sleepers at the Cornerback position in this year’s draft, as he didn’t play a lot of great competition, but still had some quality tape. He will need a year or two to adjust to the speed and intensity of the NFL game, but if he gets coached up and gains some strength in an NFL strength and conditioning program, he has the potential to be a starting corner.
Round Six Pick 183: Kevin Reddick, ILB, University of North Carolina
Kevin Reddick was regarded by many as a mid 2nd to 3rd round pick coming into this year’s college footbacll season, but due to some poor play, he has fallen down amny draft boards. Reddick would be a nice rotational guy for the Saints for his first few years as he adjusts to the NFL game, but could become a starter if he gets proper coaching and works hard enough.






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Brettesaurus Rex
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re: Mingo in the first, Tyrann in the third. Deal with it


I meant specifically in his return duties, not overall play. There's nothing to be coaches up about in him returning punts/kicks





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