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re: Michael Bradley completed 98.2% of his passes tonight
Posted on 3/27/13 at 11:07 am to LSUSOBEAST1
Posted on 3/27/13 at 11:07 am to LSUSOBEAST1
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You must have missed the entire first page.
Do you understand how futile it is to have a volume passer in a counter-attacking side?
It really is brilliant that JK can tell Bradley to complete a 3-yard sideways pass 30 yards into his own half knowing that the players around him will just immediately clear the ball.
Michael Bradley played in an Arteta role last night, which is a waste of the talent he has. It would be an entirely different story if the US had midfielders/defenders around him who could receive a pass in their own half and string together a decent bit of possession. Then he would be priceless.
I disagree 100%, I really don't think you could be any more wrong. You move Bradley up the field, and who are you going to rely on to collect the ball from the back 4 and distribute it amongst the team? Maurice Edu, Danny Williams, Jermaine Jones?
Jurgen has Bradley playing in a position that gives him the absolute most touches possible.
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Posted on 3/27/13 at 11:08 am to LSUSOBEAST1
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Michael Bradley played in an Arteta
that's exactly who he reminded me of, which sucks at they are both farther back than they need to be for their skill set. But based on what the team has it's where they end up being forced.
Posted on 3/27/13 at 11:10 am to gideon
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You move Bradley up the field, and who are you going to rely on to collect the ball from the back 4 and distribute it amongst the team
for one thing the back line should be able to handle that better than ours does, also some teams move the ball up the sides but not with our sub fullbacks.
But really though Beckerman or Edu would work fine as a defensive possession recycler.
Posted on 3/27/13 at 11:12 am to Jumbeauxlaya
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Edu would work fine as a defensive possession recycler
Edu is easily our worst central midfielder when it comes to keeping possession. Beckerman has the passing accumen, but I'm not sure he's fast enough to play that role against higher quality international teams.
Posted on 3/27/13 at 11:14 am to gideon
Restrict Edu to more of a defensive role (such as when he was a CB) and he'd do just fine with simple possession passes.
Beckerman is too slow? Bradley isn't much faster if at all...
Beckerman is too slow? Bradley isn't much faster if at all...
Posted on 3/27/13 at 11:16 am to Jumbeauxlaya
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Restrict Edu to more of a defensive role (such as when he was a CB) and he'd do just fine with simple possession passes.
Edu has been restricted to a defensive role, he's the king of giving the ball away.
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Beckerman is too slow? Bradley isn't much faster if at all...
wut. Bradley can run circles around beckerman, pace wise and stamina wise. no comparison in any way whatsoever at all.
Posted on 3/27/13 at 11:17 am to Jumbeauxlaya
I'm curious as to what y'all think Bradley can really do other than what he's currently doing. Not a whole lot of pace to use on counter and it doesn't seem like our attack makes great runs finding space anyway.
Posted on 3/27/13 at 11:24 am to acgeaux129
Pair him with a solid DM and he can be an excellent bo-to-box player on the international stage.
The point isn't necessarily that Bradley shouldn't be used as a DLP. It may very well be his strongest position, I'm not sure. He has completed a ridiculously high percentage of passes in the snow and in Azteca the last two matches. The point is that by playing him in that role, you are completely negating his skill set by surrounding him with only average technical players.
The point isn't necessarily that Bradley shouldn't be used as a DLP. It may very well be his strongest position, I'm not sure. He has completed a ridiculously high percentage of passes in the snow and in Azteca the last two matches. The point is that by playing him in that role, you are completely negating his skill set by surrounding him with only average technical players.
Posted on 3/27/13 at 11:29 am to LSUSOBEAST1
If Holden comes back, who would likely play more box to box?
This post was edited on 3/27/13 at 11:29 am
Posted on 3/27/13 at 11:53 am to acgeaux129
Hard to really say. Both are capable of playing in that role.
We would have a dynamic midfield though. I don't know if you remember the amazing partnership Holden had with Wilshere the only time they played together for Bolton. They played against either Wolverhampton or West Ham, I'm not sure. I can see Holden having a similar partnership with Bradley.
Both are strong both on the ball and in a tackle. Both are very technical, capable of picking out a pass or beating an opponent with skill. Both can shoot from distance.
I'd be interested to see what Jurgen would deploy with both of those players on the pitch. He has said several times that Holden is in his plans once he returns to full fitness.
We would have a dynamic midfield though. I don't know if you remember the amazing partnership Holden had with Wilshere the only time they played together for Bolton. They played against either Wolverhampton or West Ham, I'm not sure. I can see Holden having a similar partnership with Bradley.
Both are strong both on the ball and in a tackle. Both are very technical, capable of picking out a pass or beating an opponent with skill. Both can shoot from distance.
I'd be interested to see what Jurgen would deploy with both of those players on the pitch. He has said several times that Holden is in his plans once he returns to full fitness.
This post was edited on 3/27/13 at 11:55 am
Posted on 3/27/13 at 11:55 am to LSUSOBEAST1
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He has said several times that Holden is in his plans once he returns to full fitness.
I know it is very up in the air, but what would the SB say is the target return date?
Posted on 3/27/13 at 12:09 pm to LSUSOBEAST1
I got you. I would be ecstatic if Holden can make it back and actually returns to his form prior to the injury, which is no guarantee.
And no I don't remember that because I only started watching PL soccer somewhat regularly about 2 yrs ago.
And no I don't remember that because I only started watching PL soccer somewhat regularly about 2 yrs ago.
Posted on 3/27/13 at 12:25 pm to DestrehanTiger
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I know it is very up in the air, but what would the SB say is the target return date?
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Posted on 3/27/13 at 12:29 pm to LSUSOBEAST1
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Pair him with a solid DM and he can be an excellent bo-to-box player on the international stage.
The point isn't necessarily that Bradley shouldn't be used as a DLP. It may very well be his strongest position, I'm not sure. He has completed a ridiculously high percentage of passes in the snow and in Azteca the last two matches. The point is that by playing him in that role, you are completely negating his skill set by surrounding him with only average technical players.
Oh my bad, I thought we were talking about what JK actually did with Bradley last night to get a point at Azteca and not some fairy-tale USMNT land where we have a lot of above-average technical players to surround Bradley with and rain goals down on Mexico.
Posted on 3/27/13 at 12:30 pm to gideon
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I disagree 100%, I really don't think you could be any more wrong. You move Bradley up the field, and who are you going to rely on to collect the ball from the back 4 and distribute it amongst the team? Maurice Edu, Danny Williams, Jermaine Jones? Jurgen has Bradley playing in a position that gives him the absolute most touches possible.
This is why he needs to be box to box.
Posted on 3/27/13 at 12:32 pm to DestrehanTiger
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I know it is very up in the air, but what would the SB say is the target return date?
He has yet to play 90 with the senior squad for Bolton and has failed to get off the bench in their last few games so who knows. I will happy if he is back to form for the WC.
Posted on 3/27/13 at 12:33 pm to uway
I would still disagree with you. I thought Jurgen's tactics for most of the match yesterday were very odd.
Posted on 3/27/13 at 12:36 pm to LSUSOBEAST1
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I would still disagree with you. I thought Jurgen's tactics for most of the match yesterday were very odd.
Great. Doesn't mean he's "clueless", especially when he gets a result with that many players injured against a very talented Mexico side at their stadium.
And again, I'm pretty sure we would have lost if Bradley had been bounding up and down the length of the field "maximizing his talents."
Posted on 3/27/13 at 12:36 pm to uway
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what JK actually did with Bradley last night to get a point at Azteca and not some fairy-tale USMNT land where we have a lot of above-average technical players to surround Bradley with and rain goals down on Mexico.
Exactly! The primary goal last night was to get a draw at the most hostile stadium we play. This means sacrificing some of the offensive gameplan. We don't have goal scorers all over the field. So you take your strongest player and have him work methodically through the field. Possess the ball as much as possible, limit your exposure.
Posted on 3/27/13 at 12:40 pm to Oenophile Brah
Bradley's slow tempo and possession last night is exactly what we needed from him to slow the game down as much as possible. Edu can't handle the ball so please don't anyone say that he can. When Jermaine comes back he'll pair w/ Bradley and MB can go back to roaming box to box. I agree with the general consensus that Bradley offers too much going forward to keep him lying deep on defense all game.
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