re: GMO's and their impact on our weight.

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Fiance' works in the food industry and he'll tell you that GMO is a scary term for something that is not actually that scar

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Upton Sinclair - "It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it."

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Oh nevermind...

Food inc, King Corn, and Genetic Lottery, are three 'should watch' documentaries for anyone interested in eating healthy beyond the USDA Aspertame/sugar/HFCS/Gliadin/GMO obesity/death pyramid.

Rats fed GMO corn:



BT, a shortened name for a species of bacteria that produces a toxin. The genes from that bacteria are 'shotgunned' into corn embryos to make GMO corn that naturally produces BT.

BT corn gets in our bellies and infects the flora therein, causing that flora to become BT producing. This is not good.

Round up ready is a whole other deal, that likewise, is very bad for those who consume it, animal or human. More detail in Genetic Lottery for the visual learners and lots of research on the net for readers.

LINK

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65 Health Risks of GM Foods
Section 1: Evidence of reactions in animals and humans
1.1 GM potatoes damaged rats
1. Rats were fed potatoes engineered to produce their own insecticide.
2. They developed potentially precancerous cell growth in the digestive tract, inhibited development of their brains, livers and testicles, partial atrophy of the liver, enlarged pancreases and intestines and immune system damage.
3. The cause was not the insecticide, but in all likelihood was the process of genetic engineering.
4. GM foods on the market—which were created with the same process—have not been subject to such an extensive testing protocol.

1.2 Rats fed GM tomatoes got bleeding stomachs, several died
1. Rats were fed the GM FlavrSavr tomato for 28 days. 2. Seven of 20 rats developed stomach lesions (bleeding stomachs); another 7 of 40 died within two weeks and were replaced in the study. 3. The tomato was approved despite unresolved safety questions by FDA scientists. ]
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1.19 Eyewitness reports: Animals avoid GMOs 1. When given a choice, several animals avoided eating GM food. 2. In farmer-run tests, cows and pigs repeatedly passed up GM corn. 3. Animals that avoided GM food include cows, pigs, geese, squirrels, elk, deer, raccoons, mice and rats.

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Seen the wild animals avoiding gmo round up ready corn grown by my neighbor. He gave me a 50lb sack to 'give my chickens'. I didn't.

I left it out by the compost pile over 3 years ago. 6 months later most of it was still there. Squirrels, chickens, rabbits, dogs, deer, possums, raccoons, ground hogs, mice, moles, crows, and many other bird species... nothing touched that shite.

No thanks.

Again, eat whatever trips your trigger. But if you don't seriously research it and rely on the FDA and Monsanto to tell you the truth then the consequences are entirely an individual matter.

Do people (who don't get $$ from the .gov) still trust our government and our media?



I don't.

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Seen the wild animals avoiding gmo round up ready corn

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Squirrels, chickens, rabbits, dogs, deer, possums, raccoons, ground hogs, mice, moles, crows, and many other bird species... nothing touched that shite.

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So you're asserting that animals have the ability to detect this GMO corn feed compared to non GMO corn feed? I'd like to see some citations on this that do not rely on just your anecdotal evidence.

I wonder if people on the outdoor board that use corn feeders have experienced the same?

Personally, I hate the HFC addition to everything and I think that an over reliance on carb heavy diets are problematic. However, I feel like the vast majority of our obesity problems are directly related to sitonourassessitis.

Not too sure Bout the mutant stuff, or the testing and if they balanced it with say tomatoes that were non GMO in other samplings, but I do know that little kids in general seem to be a lot more developed than in times past, boys are bigger, and girls much more developed at younger ages than they were in my day.

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fricking hogs will eat corn soaked in diesel.

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...and a 5 day old dead gar on the bank of little river in July. But not okra.

AFAIK, GMOs are largely recognized as a failure and companies are starting to cut out a lot of GMOs. Well, that was a representative of a FDA that said that in a documentary, IIRC. But in any case, while I'd rather eat something that's natural, I don't think it's GMOs that are causing the obesity epidemic (although they certainly could be a contributing factor).
I think there's an amazing lack of nutritional education and exercise in our culture. Ever since the FDA put out the food pyramid, people have been taught that we should eat 6-11 servings of carbohydrates every day.. that carbohydrates should be the foundation of our daily diet. That would equate to ~300g of carbohydrates. At 4 calories per carb, that's 1200 calories just from carbs in a day. In a healthy male diet, a man should eat about 2000 calories a day. That leaves 800 calories for protein and fat. That is not a very balanced diet by any stretch of the imagination. It's lunacy. The human body needs healthy fats, plenty of protein, and it really doesn't need that many carbs. 150g/day would be more appropriate for the average person.

So, we have our schools teaching kids how to eat based upon a flawed nutritional guide, and the school feeding them crap meals most of the time. Then we have the technological age where most kids don't go outside and play, and finally we have parents that don't know anything about nutrition and don't try to learn anything. They then proceed to feed their kids like shite. See: honey boo boo.

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but they don't want to disclose that on the label.

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See, that is the biggest problem I have with all of this, and it fuels speculation. Refusal to give full disclosure ticks me off more than anything.

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This is a step in the right direction, but I still think too many grains.

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Agreed, and there's another problem, and that's when you go out to eat, you're basically trained to place a very small emphasis on the more healthy portions.

We're conditioned to think we need 10 to 12 oz of meat rather than 7 oz, a ton of carbs and gravy, and an insignificant green thing most people could care less about, and fresh fruits are pretty much non existent. When you consider that, it's no great wonder. A really killer salad is almost unheard of at most places. Instead they give you some iceberg crap, with store bought dressing, or if they do give you interesting items, its drowned in a sea of some nasty dressing, and then people say they aren't really salad people. Truth be known, they're normal. Nobody likes shite that tastes like crap, and if that's people's reference to a salad most of the time, then yeah, it's a no brainier they aren't salad people. Same goes for veg. I can't tell you how many people are won over to doing good fresh veg with flavor. I crave it, but because of what you get most places, vegetables are not at all in focus to that of the meat. It's all about the protein and carbs, and although we need that, it's clearly not balanced, and that's our conditioning.

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Mothers in the work place. No parent at home means video games and chips with coke.

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My mom was a stay at home mom. She couldn't cook. She didn't do any house work. She talked on the phone all day with her sisters and cousins on this:


When dad came in from the oil fields late at night she pretended to work. Things are still the same. Women are addicted to talking on the phone. But now it's texting.

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But now it's texting

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Don't forget FB.

What's funny is my mom worked full time in the medical field when I was growing up, and cooked every week night. I seriously don't know how she did it other than to say there really wasn't another option, or not one that she considered an option. The lady truly is amazing, but I really think that and the big Sunday cook days and the aromas that emanated from the kitchen is what drew me to cooking and food in general as a passion. It was a very big influence on me and my brother. Never took with my dad though. He was just the beneficiary. but she came by it honestly, as those are the same memories from my grandmother's house... Food, and what's going on in the kitchen.

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This is a step in the right direction, but I still think too many grains.

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Agreed. My sister and I used to want to fill up on macaroni and cheese or bread every night. Mom and dad made us try everything though, and sometimes it worked and we'd love a vegetable.

As for moms working and not being home...my mom worked full-time most of my life, and we had home-cooked meals every night. She planned.

And lol at all the guys on here complaining about women texting and being on FB while they rack up 20k posts on TD.