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re: Backup QB Plan

Posted on 3/14/13 at 10:25 am to
Posted by LSU1215
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Posted on 3/14/13 at 10:25 am to
Matt Cassel just got released! For the right price
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 3/14/13 at 10:27 am to
Alex smith was drafted 1, got 7 years of service and tread on tires and traded for a 34.
Posted by Bear Is Dead
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Posted on 3/14/13 at 10:29 am to
Bray is my sleeper pick this year. I think he is high risk but real high reward. However, I think he could go in the 3rd or 4th and the saints really cant afford to use those picks on a backup QB
Posted by OldSouth
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Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 3/14/13 at 10:31 am to
Serious question. With this defense, is there ANY affordable veteran who could win a game as the starter? I mean, if they can score 30, which is what they would have to score to win, then why are they still available?
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 3/14/13 at 10:33 am to
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. With this defense,


The frick do you mean "this defense"? What the shite does that mean?
Posted by wildtigercat93
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Posted on 3/14/13 at 10:36 am to
Matt Scot is shooting up draft boards right now
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 3/14/13 at 10:37 am to
blues let the secret out the hat. frick blues.
Posted by OldSouth
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Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 3/14/13 at 10:40 am to
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The frick do you mean "this defense"? What the shite does that mean?



You know, the worst in history?


Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 3/14/13 at 10:41 am to
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You know, the worst in history?




that was last year's defense. this year's defense is a new day.
Posted by dexy82
Madison, WI
Member since Sep 2004
1819 posts
Posted on 3/14/13 at 10:43 am to
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Sean Renfree, QB


I would love Sean here, because well, his mom is from Algiers(westbank), and he is kin
Posted by blueslover
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Posted on 3/14/13 at 10:43 am to
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With this defense, is there ANY affordable veteran who could win a game as the starter? I mean, if they can score 30, which is what they would have to score to win, then why are they still available?


to me we really dunno how much it is the Payton system that elevated Brees from a good QB in SD to an elite one here- cuz he's never gone down (thank gawd). In the event he did, a young guy might shine brighter in this system than he might really be. I'm thinking like Cassel. The Pats won 11 games with him starting. He moved on and was shite in KC. I could dig a 4th or later QB with more potential than a PS scrub like Canfield. Shine them up then sell them off.

Use Daniel as a guideline. With 9 career pass attempts he became esteemed enough to get $3mil a year. If Brees had any outages and he played more that could have been multiplied exponentially (if it was good results).

Payton is an offensive genius that any QB is gonna look a level or two better than they might be in any other system IMO. Use that to create some tradeable value with a 4th or 5th rd pick.
Posted by liquid rabbit
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Posted on 3/14/13 at 10:47 am to
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the Payton system that elevated Brees from a good QB in SD to an elite one here

Payton is instrumental, no doubt. But Brees is also that rare driven athlete that works himself to death to stay on top of his game. He outworks every other QB to overcome his limitations (size). I don't see him clubbing, smoking a doobie with the boys, etc. etc.

ETA: It would be nice to think Payton could mold another Brees, but I think he's a once-in-a-lifetime kind of player. Best I've ever seen, and I'm pretty damn old.
This post was edited on 3/14/13 at 10:48 am
Posted by Captain Ron
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Posted on 3/14/13 at 10:48 am to
J-Rock to the Saints.
Posted by OldSouth
Folsom, LA
Member since Oct 2011
10939 posts
Posted on 3/14/13 at 10:52 am to
quote:

to me we really dunno how much it is the Payton system that elevated Brees from a good QB in SD to an elite one here- cuz he's never gone down (thank gawd). In the event he did, a young guy might shine brighter in this system than he might really be. I'm thinking like Cassel. The Pats won 11 games with him starting. He moved on and was shite in KC. I could dig a 4th or later QB with more potential than a PS scrub like Canfield. Shine them up then sell them off.


Then why sign Brees to a contract that cripples your ability to have a decent defense?

ETA: Don't get me wrong, I LOVE Drew brees, I just don't see a backup winning no matter who it is. They just can't score enough to make up for this defense so why bother spending money on a backup?
This post was edited on 3/14/13 at 10:54 am
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 3/14/13 at 10:54 am to
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ETA: Don't get me wrong, I LOVE Drew brees, I just don't see a backup winning no matter who it is. They just can't score enough to make up for this defense so why bother spending money on a backup?


Up frick The Shut.

We have lots of money tied up on the D.
Posted by Captain Ron
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Posted on 3/14/13 at 10:55 am to
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Then why sign Brees to a contract that cripples your ability to have a decent defense?


All of the top teams with huge QB contracts are struggling with the cap: Patriots, Saints, Packers, & Ravens.

Denver has a lot of young talent so they haven't had to sign anyone else to big long-term deals yet; other than Manning.
This post was edited on 3/14/13 at 10:56 am
Posted by blueslover
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Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 3/14/13 at 11:00 am to
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: It would be nice to think Payton could mold another Brees, but I think he's a once-in-a-lifetime kind of player.


Brees was a #32 draft pick, the second QB after Vick. His performance in SD was good but not at the elite level we see now. My point is that this system prolly elevates any QB. Russell Wilson looks a helluva lot like Brees with the same off the charts intangibles. He landed in the right system tho. Another team and he might not have even won a starting job.

If Daniel who was UDFA and cut by the Redskins can turn into a 10 million dollar backup QB think what Payton could do with a higher upside 4th or 5th rder.
Posted by OldSouth
Folsom, LA
Member since Oct 2011
10939 posts
Posted on 3/14/13 at 11:00 am to
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We have lots of money tied up on the D


Driveway to the facility? The dome? Rita's dildo?
Posted by liquid rabbit
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Posted on 3/14/13 at 11:02 am to
I see your point, but I think there's the pre-injury Brees and the post-injury Brees. Two different beasts. I think the injury changed him and made him figure out how to prove everyone wrong by working himself tirelessly. Payton no doubt encouraged that.
Posted by Captain Ron
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Posted on 3/14/13 at 11:02 am to
..and the owners came out like gang-busters on this new CBA deal: The salary cap this season is less than the salary cap of the 2009 season.
This post was edited on 3/14/13 at 11:03 am
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