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Thought you were Catholic based on your post, which was the reasoning behind the response.

Purgatory is a Dogma of the Church. It isn't going anywhere.






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re: What's been the last "big" change in Catholicism?


oh look another religious thread. I guess it's okay to reignite all those long thought out religious debates that go no where.

unless of course these were somehow no longer permitted on this forum via the rules.






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Jim Rockford
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Yep. The media really needs to get over itself. The Catholic Church will never elect a pope who is pro-choice or pro-gay marriage. You can take that to the bank. That's why I really don't get the terms "conservative" and "progressive" as it relates to the Church. These issues are Church doctrine and the College of Cardinals will not elect someone who is openly against Church doctrine.


Sure it will. It may take 150 years, but it will get with the times eventually. There will even be married women priests.






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Catman88
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re: What's been the last "big" change in Catholicism?


150 years to change almost 2000 years of teaching?





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Bayou Sam
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The Church has changed its doctrine on both spiritual and moral matters. Catholic tradition is not a stable core of doctrine that has remained unchanged since Constantine.

Even if you wanted to say that it was, you certainly wouldn't argue that Catholic doctrine "changed" at Nicaea--you would say that Catholic dogma at Nicaea was finally officially defined against the heretics.






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re: What's been the last "big" change in Catholicism?


Acceptance of evolution?







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Al Dante
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The biggest change seems to be the average age of the children being diddled seems to have gone up a few years.







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TigerJeff
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When Jesus Himself names your first leader as the "rock upon which His Church is built," what in the world needs to be "changed"?





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GumboPot
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Changes in the Roman Missal last year...


Yeah definitely this.






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GumboPot
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any change in the fundamental beliefs or doctrine?


You might already know this but I'll say it anyway; when you think of the belief system in the Church think 3 Ds: dogma, doctrine, and discipline.

Dogma cannot be changed. This is where infallible declarations are made from the seat of Peter.

Doctrine is based on dogma. The way I understand doctrine is that it fundamentally cannot be changed but is up for some interpretation. Think of cannon law and the liturgy as examples.

Discipline is base on doctrine (sacred scripture and Tradition) but can be changed by the local bishop. An example of discipline in the Latin rite is priestly celibacy. Other catholic rites don't practice this discipline. BTW, the practice is biblical first suggested by St. Paul.

ETA, in summary changes in the Church go like this:

Dogma - No.
Doctrine - ehhh, maybe
Discipline - Yes (but very slowly, lol)



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MStant1
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When Jesus Himself names your first leader as the "rock upon which His Church is built," what in the world needs to be "changed"?


Except Peter died a few hundred years before the Catholic Church was formed......






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CarrolltonTiger
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Except Peter died a few hundred years before the Catholic Church was formed......


When exactly was the Catholic church formed?






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TN Bhoy
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Catholics, what's been the biggest change in the Church in your lifetime?



Summorum pontificum







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TN Bhoy
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Except Peter died a few hundred years before the Catholic Church was formed......






Are you talking about Constantine? Because you're a fricking moron if you are.






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MStant1
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Are you talking about Constantine? Because you're a fricking moron if you are.


No I get it. You guys think Jesus created the Roman Catholic Church himself and Peter was the first pope. It's cool man. I'm just saying if we're being honest the Roman Catholic Church didn't exist until a few hundred years later.






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GumboPot
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When exactly was the Catholic church formed?


When Jesus told Peter, "upon this rock I will build my church".






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GregMaddux
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hanges in the Roman Missal last year...




Some jackass pulled a thesaurus and changed a couple words.






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RollTide1987
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I'm just saying if we're being honest the Roman Catholic Church didn't exist until a few hundred years later.



Really? Because the Catholic Church had spread to Rome by the time St. Peter was crucified in 64 AD.

The Christians who were running around in the aftermath of Jesus's death and resurrection were Catholics. Hate to burst your bubble on that.







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MStant1
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Early Christians existed sure, but the Catholic Church the organized religion didn't exist until well after Peter's death. Saying the Catholic Church existed during the apostles' time because they can trace the religious lineage is like saying I existed in the garden of Eden because we all can trace our origin to Adam.





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RollTide1987
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Early Christians existed sure, but the Catholic Church the organized religion didn't exist until well after Peter's death.


Nope. Not true at all. Let's take the words of St. Irenaeus who wrote about Pope Linus - the immediate successor of St. Peter - in 180 AD:

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"The blessed apostles, then, having founded and built up the Church, committed into the hands of Linus the office of the episcopate."


So here we are, just over a century after the death of St. Peter, with a written account from the Bishop of Lugdunum (modern day Lyon, France) describing the founding of a Church and the passage of leadership of that Church to Linus - who is regarded in the history of Christianity to be the second pontiff of the Catholic Church.



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