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re: Spinoff Thread: Offensive Team Logos and Names

Posted on 3/13/13 at 12:17 pm to
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 3/13/13 at 12:17 pm to
I see what you're doing. Stretching the argument to ridiculous lengths to make all arguments about offensive team names/logos seem ridiculous.

It's a cheap fallacy.
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 3/13/13 at 12:17 pm to
they are named after Buffalo Bill(not the creep from Silence of the Lambs) but still not offensive. and this it's talking about mascots.and logos, so it has nothing to do with buffalo bill.
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 3/13/13 at 12:20 pm to
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they are named after Buffalo Bill(not the creep from Silence of the Lambs)


I know. And he was driving force behind bison almost being extinct. That's why Buffalos should be offended, if they have that capability.

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and this it's talking about mascots.and logos, so it has nothing to do with buffalo bill.

Then I'm even more confused as to why they were included at all.
Posted by Vlad The Inhaler
Moose Jaw, SK
Member since Sep 2008
3160 posts
Posted on 3/13/13 at 12:20 pm to
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I'm not sure how the Buffalo Bills name is offensive to anyone other than Buffalos.


Promotes violence by invoking a time of Westward expansion that encouraged cruelty and social injustice toward the native people. Buffalo Bill himself greatly exploited the native people. The name also was influenced by its founders, and oil tycoon, and through the use of non-renewable energy should be discouraged.


Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 3/13/13 at 12:21 pm to
The only offensive ones are the Redskins name and Chief Wahoo.
Posted by Vlad The Inhaler
Moose Jaw, SK
Member since Sep 2008
3160 posts
Posted on 3/13/13 at 12:22 pm to
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The rangers? 99% of every one you listed?


Named after Texas Rangers, unjust law enforcement staff with a history of discrimination and racism.
Posted by Waffle House
NYC
Member since Aug 2008
3945 posts
Posted on 3/13/13 at 12:23 pm to
You may as well add a whole lot more teams to your list if you're going to stretch to such lengths.
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
76446 posts
Posted on 3/13/13 at 12:24 pm to
The browns? Named after paul brown, and their logo is a helmet.
Posted by Vlad The Inhaler
Moose Jaw, SK
Member since Sep 2008
3160 posts
Posted on 3/13/13 at 12:24 pm to
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You may as well add a whole lot more teams to your list if you're going to stretch to such lengths.


I'm open to suggestions.




Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
61788 posts
Posted on 3/13/13 at 12:26 pm to
You forgot:

Portland Trail Blazers - also promotes American hegemony and westward expansion

Orlando Magic - promotes witchcraft

Oklahoma City Thunder - demeans victims of Midwestern storms

Phoenix Suns - promotes global warming

Philadelphia Eagles - demeans America itself by portraying the iconic symbol of our country as a petty predator

etc etc etc


We get it. Nice shtick. Any team name/logo can be willfully misconstrued to seem offensive in some backwards sense.

Doesn't change the fact that just a couple are, in actuality, blatantly and overtly offensive.
Posted by Vlad The Inhaler
Moose Jaw, SK
Member since Sep 2008
3160 posts
Posted on 3/13/13 at 12:26 pm to
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The browns?


Name doesn't work in today's time and with the increasing Hispanic population. You couldn't name a team the Blacks or Whites. Why Browns?
Posted by carhartt
Member since Feb 2013
7661 posts
Posted on 3/13/13 at 12:28 pm to
How are the Buffalo Sabres, Winnipeg Jets and Sacramento Kings offensive? Going off this list, them the Los Angeles Kings should be offensive also.
Posted by Waffle House
NYC
Member since Aug 2008
3945 posts
Posted on 3/13/13 at 12:28 pm to
Off the top of my head, you can add the NY Rangers, the Magic, the Giants (NY and SF), the Senators and the Canadiens.
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
69996 posts
Posted on 3/13/13 at 12:29 pm to
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Name doesn't work in today's time and with the increasing Hispanic population.


Even in this retarded thread this is just a bridge too far.
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
61788 posts
Posted on 3/13/13 at 12:30 pm to
Am I the only one who gets it? Why are yall arguing with him?

OP is being ridiculous on purpose. He's trying to be as ridiculous as possible. That's the point.
Posted by Vlad The Inhaler
Moose Jaw, SK
Member since Sep 2008
3160 posts
Posted on 3/13/13 at 12:32 pm to
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Buffalo Sabres,


Sword in logo. Bullets go the ax

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Winnipeg Jets


See above

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Sacramento Kings


Sword in logo

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Los Angeles Kings


Name is there. Promotes a caste system and non-equality
Posted by Vlad The Inhaler
Moose Jaw, SK
Member since Sep 2008
3160 posts
Posted on 3/13/13 at 12:33 pm to
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We get it. Nice shtick. Any team name/logo can be willfully misconstrued to seem offensive in some backwards sense.


I don't think "we" do. You get it.



Posted by carhartt
Member since Feb 2013
7661 posts
Posted on 3/13/13 at 12:35 pm to
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We get it. Nice shtick. Any team name/logo can be willfully misconstrued to seem offensive in some backwards sense.


That's how we end up with stupid team names like Pelicans or Raptors. But those might offend someone also. Who knows.
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
61788 posts
Posted on 3/13/13 at 12:36 pm to
Touché. Thanks for the acknowledgment at least. Enjoy your thread.
Posted by Vlad The Inhaler
Moose Jaw, SK
Member since Sep 2008
3160 posts
Posted on 3/13/13 at 12:38 pm to
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NY Rangers,


I think it's a stetch. Not really associated the the racist Texas Rangers, though Tex's Rangers is a play on words.

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the Magic


maybe so.

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the Giants (NY and SF),


I need an explaination. Possible discrimination against the very tall?

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the Senators and the Canadiens


Senators promote civility, IMO. Canadiens may promote too much nationalism.
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