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Why are hollowpoints banned for use in war?

Posted on 3/11/13 at 1:32 pm
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
76436 posts
Posted on 3/11/13 at 1:32 pm
Its ok to shot at each other and try and kill someone, but don't use hollow points.

I don't get it, someone help me out.
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
24882 posts
Posted on 3/11/13 at 1:35 pm to
too deadly.
Posted by brass2mouth
NOLA
Member since Jul 2007
19666 posts
Posted on 3/11/13 at 1:36 pm to
B/c of the potential for maiming, at least thats what they always told us when I was active.
Posted by CadesCove
Mounting the Woman
Member since Oct 2006
40828 posts
Posted on 3/11/13 at 1:37 pm to
You might shoot the enemy too dead.
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
165968 posts
Posted on 3/11/13 at 1:37 pm to
what they going to do about it? Go to war?
Posted by mommas boy
Member since Sep 2012
2234 posts
Posted on 3/11/13 at 1:38 pm to
I've always wondered this. Never could find a good explanation except it's been law since the 1890s. Level playing field is what I'm guessing tho?
Posted by RATeamWannabe
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2009
25938 posts
Posted on 3/11/13 at 1:38 pm to
War Crimes Trials, after the conflict is over. Usually results in executions if its bad enough to go to trial
Posted by hashbrowns
Shitholeastan
Member since Nov 2011
2380 posts
Posted on 3/11/13 at 1:38 pm to
Because politicians wrote the treaty that banned them, not the soldiers.
Posted by brass2mouth
NOLA
Member since Jul 2007
19666 posts
Posted on 3/11/13 at 1:41 pm to
I never understood a lot of it when I was active duty, besides the humane treatment of POWs I never got the rules thing. At the end of the day its war, but they want to make it as peaceful as possible.
Posted by colorchangintiger
Dan Carlin
Member since Nov 2005
30979 posts
Posted on 3/11/13 at 1:43 pm to
quote:

Why are hollowpoints banned for use in war?


So civillians will have the upper hand when we rebel.
Posted by Boudreaux35
BR
Member since Sep 2007
21377 posts
Posted on 3/11/13 at 1:48 pm to
So, shooting someone while engaged in combat with a hollowpoint resulting in a sever injury is "illegal" but taking an innocent civilian hostage and beheading them on film is "part of war"?
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34206 posts
Posted on 3/11/13 at 1:51 pm to
quote:

So, shooting someone while engaged in combat with a hollowpoint resulting in a sever injury is "illegal" but taking an innocent civilian hostage and beheading them on film is "part of war"?


No, both of them are illegal. Are you implying that we should ignore international treaties in order to stoop to the level of terrorists?
Posted by olgoi khorkhoi
priapism survivor
Member since May 2011
14808 posts
Posted on 3/11/13 at 2:03 pm to
I personally think we should take the gloves off and fight wars to win stop wasting our young mens' lives to appear "civilized". I would not trade one of our boys for 100000000000 of the other guys, civilian or soldier.
Posted by pooponsaban
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2008
13494 posts
Posted on 3/11/13 at 2:05 pm to
Read the Geneva Convention. Really. Read it.
Posted by El Josey Wales
Greater Geismar
Member since Nov 2007
22710 posts
Posted on 3/11/13 at 2:15 pm to
quote:

I personally think we should take the gloves off and fight wars to win stop wasting our young mens' lives to appear "civilized". I would not trade one of our boys for 100000000000 of the other guys, civilian or soldier.


:kige:
Posted by LSUTiger205
Ocean Springs, MS
Member since Aug 2006
10820 posts
Posted on 3/11/13 at 2:19 pm to
Its due to the fact that the Hollow point leaves a devestating wound when not a kill shot. It is a medics nightmare.
Posted by Hawgon
Texas
Member since Feb 2011
1223 posts
Posted on 3/11/13 at 2:21 pm to
Because the purpose of war is not to kill people, but rather to impose a political solution through the use of force.
Posted by Tbobby
Member since Dec 2006
4358 posts
Posted on 3/11/13 at 2:21 pm to
I was told it is better to wound your enemy than kill him. That way, enemy expends hospital and support resources to fix him up.
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34206 posts
Posted on 3/11/13 at 2:23 pm to
quote:

wasting our young mens' lives to appear "civilized".


It's not about "appearing" civilized. It's about BEING civilized. Forgive me if I strive to be a better person than a suicide bomber.
Posted by uway
Member since Sep 2004
33109 posts
Posted on 3/11/13 at 2:26 pm to
Not sure where I stand on this. I agree with "take the gloves off" to some extent, but I don't want American soldiers being shot with hollow points if we ever do actually fight a full-scale war with the type of enemy that would follow Geneva.
Also, how much has the use of FMJ ammo hampered us in recent wars? We may not have clear goals and the wars themselves may not be "winnable", but we win all the firefights.

On a related note, I took a tactical medicine class this weekend and the instructor shot up a dead hog with some 9mm hollow points so we could "treat" it. Seeing what the HPs did to that pig reinforced my strong preference for not getting shot.
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