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re: With Tiger's win today, that gives him 7 wins in his last 22 PGA Tourneys
Posted on 3/11/13 at 12:46 pm to Navytiger74
Posted on 3/11/13 at 12:46 pm to Navytiger74
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That's humbling for older guys. Believe me. I turned 30 less than 2 months ago and my father's pushing 70. They hang on to old athletes and old actors and past times like mother's milk. Nothing to resent really. Just the way it is.
I don't resent it, but don't expect me to not point out the huge flaw in their line of thinking. I turn 30 next year, fwiw.
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Posted on 3/11/13 at 12:54 pm to unbeWEAVEable
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Yea...the quality of a black and white television is just as comparable to a flat screen HDTV...
It was the best for the time period. Everyone in the field has access to the same equipment, thus the playing field is leveled for superior skill to take over.
Now if someone was trying to compare Tiger and Jack both shooting 64 in their primes on the exact same course and layout, then equipment is a factor. But for the purpose of GOAT discussions, equipment is irrelevant.
This post was edited on 3/11/13 at 12:56 pm
Posted on 3/11/13 at 1:01 pm to LNCHBOX
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But for the purpose of GOAT discussions, equipment is irrelevant.
I see that as obtuse, but we all have our opinions.
Posted on 3/11/13 at 1:05 pm to LNCHBOX
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It was the best for the time period. Everyone in the field has access to the same equipment, thus the playing field is leveled for superior skill to take over.
the new equipment is more forgiving and easier to hit straight. i guarantee you that tiger wishes everyone was hitting with hickory shafts and feather balls.
Posted on 3/11/13 at 1:42 pm to lsugolf1105
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the new equipment is more forgiving and easier to hit straight. i guarantee you that tiger wishes everyone was hitting with hickory shafts and feather balls.
And courses are longer and more challenging now. Also, I'd LOVE to see Tiger go all out with a hickory shaft.
Posted on 3/11/13 at 3:16 pm to unbeWEAVEable
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I see that as obtuse, but we all have our opinions.
Feel free to disprove my logic.
Posted on 3/11/13 at 3:18 pm to lsugolf1105
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the new equipment is more forgiving and easier to hit straight. i guarantee you that tiger wishes everyone was hitting with hickory shafts and feather balls.
So by this, you've just admitted that more people can win a tournament today compared to when the equipment was not as good. Which therefore makes Tiger's run more impressive.
Posted on 3/11/13 at 3:20 pm to LNCHBOX
Does it really matter how forgiving equipment is when every pro has wear marks like this.
This post was edited on 3/11/13 at 3:21 pm
Posted on 3/11/13 at 3:20 pm to LNCHBOX
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So by this, you've just admitted that more people can win a tournament today compared to when the equipment was not as good. Which therefore makes Tiger's run more impressive.
yes. that is exactly what i am saying.
Posted on 3/11/13 at 3:22 pm to LNCHBOX
Do you legitimately not see how ignorant that is? I'm not going to explain myself if you aren't serious.
Posted on 3/11/13 at 3:23 pm to iheartlsu
My next 8 iron will look like that.
Posted on 3/11/13 at 3:24 pm to unbeWEAVEable
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It was the best for the time period. Everyone in the field has access to the same equipment, thus the playing field is leveled for superior skill to take over.
Now if someone was trying to compare Tiger and Jack both shooting 64 in their primes on the exact same course and layout, then equipment is a factor. But for the purpose of GOAT discussions, equipment is irrelevant.
Refute this. I don't think you can.
Posted on 3/11/13 at 3:25 pm to iheartlsu
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Does it really matter how forgiving equipment is when every pro has wear marks like this
This too.
Posted on 3/11/13 at 3:27 pm to LNCHBOX
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Refute this. I don't think you can.
you can miss the center of the club face and still hit a good shot with today's equipment. if you missed the center of the club face with the old equipment, you were screwed.
Posted on 3/11/13 at 3:30 pm to lsugolf1105
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you can miss the center of the club face and still hit a good shot with today's equipment. if you missed the center of the club face with the old equipment, you were screwed.
How does that refute my statement exactly?
Posted on 3/11/13 at 3:41 pm to LNCHBOX
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How does that refute my statement exactly?
superior skill is diminished.
Posted on 3/11/13 at 3:41 pm to iheartlsu
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Does it really matter how forgiving equipment is when every pro has wear marks like this
It's not about the majority, it's about the one you miss that doesn't fly off the planet or land 80 yards short
Posted on 3/11/13 at 3:50 pm to lsugolf1105
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superior skill is diminished
What are you even talking about?
Everyone has access to the same high tech equipment for a given time period. Therefore there is no equipment advantage when comparing Tiger's run with Jack's run. Tiger uses the same equipment his competitors use, and Jack used the same equipment his competitors used.
Anyone arguing that Tiger's run is somehow diminished because of equipment advances is most likely retarded.
Posted on 3/11/13 at 3:55 pm to LNCHBOX
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Anyone arguing that Tiger's run is somehow diminished because of equipment advances is most likely retarded.
i'm arguing that it is more impressive because less talented players are capable of winning. a guy can miss a shot and still get away with it.
Posted on 3/11/13 at 3:57 pm to lsutigers1992
Tiger's status as the best amateur golfer ever (shout out to bobby jones) is what makes him the GOAT already IMO. I don't count his us amateur titles as majors but they are not second rate titles and I do put them in their own category of achievements to be compared.
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