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re: Better player: 26 year old Scottie Pippen or 31 year old DWADE

Posted on 3/7/13 at 2:32 pm to
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278157 posts
Posted on 3/7/13 at 2:32 pm to
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So the Heat could have won it without Shaq????? Think about what you are saying...........




did you watch that playoffs at all? Or even that season?


Wade in the Finals 35PPG 8 REB 4AST 2.7stl 1 BLK


get fricked. Pippen never ever ever ever ever has ever been that good.
Posted by deathvalleyjunkie
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2009
2016 posts
Posted on 3/7/13 at 2:39 pm to
Wade right now is better than pippen was at 26
i also believe that if wade never gets hurt then he would be better than lebron
Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
30082 posts
Posted on 3/7/13 at 2:45 pm to
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The point is he never could do anything without Jordan.



you can say the same about wade, he couldn't win without shaq and he only started winning again with lebron.
Posted by Solo
Member since Aug 2008
8234 posts
Posted on 3/7/13 at 2:53 pm to
Pippen was probably the best defensive SF of all time.

Trump card. Played.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278157 posts
Posted on 3/7/13 at 2:56 pm to
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he couldn't win without shaq



again, look at the fricking numbers. That was Wades team. Not even debatable
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
202618 posts
Posted on 3/7/13 at 2:57 pm to
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get fricked. Pippen never ever ever ever ever has ever been that good.



He didn't HAVE to be....... BOTTOM LINE..........PIPPEN has 6 titles Wade has two.......



ENOUGH SAID.............
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278157 posts
Posted on 3/7/13 at 3:03 pm to
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He didn't HAVE to be....... BOTTOM LINE..........PIPPEN has 6 titles Wade has two.......



such a stupid argument... par for the course for you
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110659 posts
Posted on 3/7/13 at 4:27 pm to
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I'm shocked to see that people think a fading Wade is better than a prime Pippen. 
I think your word choice is quite exaggerated.

That "fading" Wade has better scoring numbers than Pippen ever had.
Posted by Solo
Member since Aug 2008
8234 posts
Posted on 3/7/13 at 4:38 pm to
Pippen is also one of the best defensive SF's of all time, frick face.

This post was edited on 3/7/13 at 4:41 pm
Posted by RonBurgundy
Whale's Vagina(San Diego)
Member since Oct 2005
13302 posts
Posted on 3/7/13 at 5:07 pm to
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That is PER- player efficiency rating!!! you dumb frick.


Mostly defense isn't measured in the NBA. However, let's dig:
1) Wade's career usage %: 32.2
Pippen's career usage %: 22.5
Wade's lowest usage year (rookie) : 25.0
Scottie topped 25% usage twice : 93-94, 94-95 (aka the 1.5 years Jordan retired) and maxed out at only 27.1. Wade uses the ball more.
Dwayne Wade has two seasons under 30% usage rating this year(29.7) and his rookie year
PER rewards offensive players
2) Wade's highest number of Defensive Win Shares:4.7
Pippen: 6.7
Scottie Pippen topped 5.0 Defensive Win Shares 6 times in his career. The only two perimiter player with more defenisve win shares are Jason Kidd and Hondo (and Dr.J taking in his ABA career)

at age 31 so far Wade has a total(offense[5.4]+ defense[2.4]) equal to 7.8 with a WS/48m% of .197 through 55 games.
at age 31 Scottie Pippen played 82 games had at total Wins Shares of 13(O[7.8] D[5.2])with a WS/48m at .203.

Pippen is the (one of the)best wing defender of all time and Wade's defense isn't what you think it is.

Pippen > Wade.

Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110659 posts
Posted on 3/7/13 at 5:07 pm to
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Pippen is also one of the best defensive SF's of all time, frick face. 


I wonder how some posters on this site function in society. I really do.

People can't have the same most simple debates without having the most hilarious meltdowns.

It's always fun to watch.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
32370 posts
Posted on 3/7/13 at 5:07 pm to
Why you mad though?
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110659 posts
Posted on 3/7/13 at 5:09 pm to
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and Wade's defense isn't what you think it is. 
seems like Wade's offense isn't quite fading like you think it is also, though.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110659 posts
Posted on 3/7/13 at 5:10 pm to
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Why you mad though?
never ceases to amaze me how sports debates make people fly off the handle and lose all sense of rational behavior
Posted by RonBurgundy
Whale's Vagina(San Diego)
Member since Oct 2005
13302 posts
Posted on 3/7/13 at 5:11 pm to
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I think your word choice is quite exaggerated.

That "fading" Wade has better scoring numbers than Pippen ever had.



Wade has had a great run during this streak, but the only thing that's outlandish is the idea that Wade is still the player that he was 5 years ago.

He's had a great month because his body is good right now, he can't do that for 82(+) anymore.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
202618 posts
Posted on 3/7/13 at 5:13 pm to
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such a stupid argument


What argument is there??? FACS ARE FACTS............


quote:

... par for the course for you


Not this time LOSER......... If you think Wade is better than Pippen you need to meet YOUR former wife and ask her.
She has TOLD ME that PJ is PIPING[when lester could not] and PIPPEn was PIPPEN............
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
202618 posts
Posted on 3/7/13 at 5:15 pm to
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Pippen is also one of the best defensive SF's of all time, frick face. I wonder how some posters on this site function in society. I really do. People can't have the same most simple debates without having the most hilarious meltdowns. It's always fun to watch.


If YOU disagree with this statement you are just plain stupid..........
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110659 posts
Posted on 3/7/13 at 5:22 pm to
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but the only thing that's outlandish is the idea that Wade is still the player that he was 5 years ago
never said that.

quote:

He's had a great month
he's having a great season.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110659 posts
Posted on 3/7/13 at 5:23 pm to
quote:

f YOU disagree with this statement you are just plain stupid..........
I definitely disagree with that statement, I'm not a frick face
Posted by WicKed WayZ
Louisiana Forever
Member since Sep 2011
31466 posts
Posted on 3/7/13 at 5:31 pm to
Cowherd is on a Lebron dick sucking rampage
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