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re: Why is Monty a good coach?

Posted on 3/7/13 at 7:42 am to
Posted by quail man
New York, NY
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Posted on 3/7/13 at 7:42 am to


also

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it wasn't a bad effort, but not impressive enough to give Monty so much slack.

JMO


they weren't expected to win a single game in that series, much less take one on the road.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61435 posts
Posted on 3/7/13 at 8:16 am to
First of all, it's great to see the board in full meltdown mode. Every thread on the first page is new

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So that's my beef. Pro-Monty guys, why exactly is Monty considered such a good coach in the NBA?


I've said before I think Monty needs to find his Tex Winter if he's going to stay long term. I've never said Monty is blameless in the losses, just that now is not the time to bring out the torches and pitch forks. The only thing to care about this season are things that affect future seasons. Even if you felt you had definitive proof that Monty never will be what this team needs, now is not the time to do anything about it. This team won't be able to land the top coaching candidates until the roster is ready to make the playoffs.

I'm much more concerned about Demps proving he belongs than Monty. As AD grows Monty will be easy to move on from if that's necessary. If Demps screws things up that will be much harder to recover from. This will be the first time Demps gets to make big decisions, both with cap space and with having to actually pick the 1 player out of 4 similar ones that will boom rather than bust or just be adequate.

This post was edited on 3/7/13 at 8:20 am
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
63439 posts
Posted on 3/7/13 at 8:21 am to
Yep, Monty definitely will be here at the beginning of next season (and rightly so) unless the remainder of the season goes much further to shite and off the court issues come into play.

Next season is Monty's crunch time.
Posted by sportjunkie69
Member since Nov 2012
2145 posts
Posted on 3/7/13 at 9:45 am to
Most coaching experts will tell you that the sign of a well coached team is the ability to finish/close out games. When you have a 17 point lead at home against a .500 ball club with 8 min left in the game and lose then you have a problem. If it happens regularly/frequently then have a personnel problem or a coaching problem. Either way you better have a GM who can fix the problem.

Gordon - Veteran
Anderson - Veteran
Lopez - Veteran
Vasquez - Veteran
Aminu - Veteran

I wouldn't just blame these things on having a young team.
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34245 posts
Posted on 3/7/13 at 10:10 am to
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I've said before I think Monty needs to find his Tex Winter if he's going to stay long term


Yeah, he needs a strong bench coach helping it out, but he is definitely proving solid at developing players.

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I'm much more concerned about Demps proving he belongs than Monty. As AD grows Monty will be easy to move on from if that's necessary. If Demps screws things up that will be much harder to recover from. This will be the first time Demps gets to make big decisions, both with cap space and with having to actually pick the 1 player out of 4 similar ones that will boom rather than bust or just be adequate.


Again, you hit the nail on the head. A coach affects your team. A GM affects your franchise.
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34245 posts
Posted on 3/7/13 at 10:13 am to
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Gordon - Veteran
Anderson - Veteran
Lopez - Veteran
Vasquez - Veteran
Aminu - Veteran


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And a combined 15 years of NBA experience....grizzled vets.
Posted by Gtothemoney
Da North Shore
Member since Sep 2012
17713 posts
Posted on 3/7/13 at 10:27 am to
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And a combined 15 years of NBA experience....grizzled vets


That averages out to 5 yrs in the league per player. That's pretty much describes a veteran, doesn't it?
Posted by Chad504boy
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Member since Feb 2005
166128 posts
Posted on 3/7/13 at 10:27 am to
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grizzled vets.




they should at least know what basket to defend.
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34245 posts
Posted on 3/7/13 at 10:43 am to
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That averages out to 5 yrs in the league per player. That's pretty much describes a veteran, doesn't it?


I see math is not your strong suit. And I actually included this year for several of them. If you think we are a veteran team, I think you are a tard.
This post was edited on 3/7/13 at 10:45 am
Posted by MrPappagiorgio
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2009
41122 posts
Posted on 3/7/13 at 10:45 am to
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That averages out to 5 yrs in the league per player.


Posted by Gtothemoney
Da North Shore
Member since Sep 2012
17713 posts
Posted on 3/7/13 at 10:50 am to
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I see math is not your strong suit. And I actually included this year for several of them. If you think we are a veteran team, I think you are a tard.


Pretty strong for a Chalmette High grad. I know I know, we are a bunch of d-leaguers. We're young. It's Chris Paul's fault. It's Bower's fault. It's the plumbers fault. It's my nut sacks
fault.

You keep making excuses. It's what you do best.
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34245 posts
Posted on 3/7/13 at 10:51 am to
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You keep making excuses. It's what you do best


Okay, but only if you keep saying dumb, patently false shite.
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34245 posts
Posted on 3/7/13 at 10:52 am to
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Chalmette High grad


Posted by Gtothemoney
Da North Shore
Member since Sep 2012
17713 posts
Posted on 3/7/13 at 10:53 am to
Smh
Posted by Cap Crunch
Fire Alleva
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 3/7/13 at 10:55 am to
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Gordon - Veteran
Anderson - Veteran
Lopez - Veteran
Vasquez - Veteran
Aminu - Veteran

Uhh, what?

You realize Gordon is the only one on this team that has been a starter before this season, and he spent the last year and a half out with an injury
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61435 posts
Posted on 3/7/13 at 11:25 am to
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You keep making excuses.


And you keep dismissing the roster problems. Monty has always had questionable rotations but outside of that the biggest complaint this season seems to be the lack of competitiveness. Last year's team certainly was competitive, they rarely got blown out and I don't remember too many big leads slipping away, certainly not in back to back games. So what's different, is Monty worse or is it the difference between a veteran squad and one where the starters average 3 years of NBA experience? I'd ask you to do the math but...

Seriously though, explain the difference between this season and last. Do you think Monty is significantly worse this season or do you admit that the roster issues may be closer to reasons than excuses?
Posted by Nissanmaxima
Member since Feb 2006
14928 posts
Posted on 3/7/13 at 1:13 pm to
Monty gets one more year.
Posted by HeadyBrosevelt
the Verde River
Member since Jan 2013
21590 posts
Posted on 3/7/13 at 1:16 pm to
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Pretty strong for a Chalmette High grad


Posted by Gtothemoney
Da North Shore
Member since Sep 2012
17713 posts
Posted on 3/7/13 at 1:44 pm to
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Seriously though, explain the difference between this season and last. Do you think Monty is significantly worse this season or do you admit that the roster issues may be closer to reasons than excuses?


I agree that last years roster played hard. I think this roster plays relatively hard, but his choices of rotations are turrible. It's almost likes he's out to prove his way is the way, regardless of what the outcome is or what others think. It's not like he has the "skins on the wall" to support his point.

What has been bothering me the most lately, besides the point that I've been screaming all year about sitting Davis in winnable 4th qtrs, is the plays he's drawing up in crunch time. If option A is covered, option B is to have Vasquez throw up a prayer.

He comes across to me like his shite doesn't stink.
Posted by fightingtiger2335
heh?
Member since Aug 2007
61157 posts
Posted on 3/7/13 at 1:48 pm to
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s roster plays relatively hard, but his choices of rotations are turrible. It's almost likes he's out to prove his way is the way, regardless of what the outcome is or what others think. It's not like he has the "skins on the wall" to support his point



Ive thought this about him since year 1
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