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High school 40 times vs NFL combine times
Posted on 3/6/13 at 3:15 pm
Posted on 3/6/13 at 3:15 pm
HS vs NFL
A deeper look into that number everyone seems to be oh so obsessed about.
A deeper look into that number everyone seems to be oh so obsessed about.
This post was edited on 3/6/13 at 3:28 pm
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Posted on 3/6/13 at 3:22 pm to Brown Mountain
Posted on 3/6/13 at 3:22 pm to Brown Mountain
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Alabama offensive lineman D.J. Fluker, who ran a 4.9 second 40-yard dash in high school despite weighing 350 pounds and perpetually looking like he smelled fish, added 0.41 seconds to his 40 time by the end of his four years with Nick Saban.
frickin lol
Posted on 3/6/13 at 3:23 pm to Brown Mountain
Conspiracy!
Posted on 3/6/13 at 3:24 pm to CHOCHE
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Posted on 3/6/13 at 3:30 pm to Brown Mountain
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Dustin Hopkins Florida State K 4.74 4.58 0.16 ACC
Most important one imo
Posted on 3/6/13 at 3:33 pm to Brown Mountain
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Vintson Painter Virginia Tech OL 4.95 5.8 -0.85 ACC
5.8 in HS? Mother of god.
Posted on 3/6/13 at 3:37 pm to memphstigers23
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5.8 in HS?
Put down the jumbo Jack
Posted on 3/6/13 at 3:39 pm to memphstigers23
Did the article show their weights leaving high school compared to when they left college.
My educated guess tells me the average is 20lbs or so. If you gain 20 and run as fast or very close to it, it means your actually faster but carrying more mass slows your overall time (mostly in the start)
My educated guess tells me the average is 20lbs or so. If you gain 20 and run as fast or very close to it, it means your actually faster but carrying more mass slows your overall time (mostly in the start)
Posted on 3/6/13 at 3:41 pm to the LSUSaint
PLAYER COLLEGE POS NFL 40 HS 40 DIFF CONF
P.J. Lonergan LSU OL 5.38 4.78 0.60 SEC
ETA doesnt show weight just rimes
P.J. Lonergan LSU OL 5.38 4.78 0.60 SEC
ETA doesnt show weight just rimes
This post was edited on 3/6/13 at 3:42 pm
Posted on 3/6/13 at 3:41 pm to Brown Mountain
Rivals had him at 317 coming out of HS, I was expecting 360
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PLAYER COLLEGE POS NFL 40 HS 40 DIFF CONF P.J. Lonergan LSU OL 5.38 4.78 0.60 SEC
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This post was edited on 3/6/13 at 3:42 pm
Posted on 3/6/13 at 3:58 pm to memphstigers23
No shat.. Hand timers will give you lower times than a NFL combine official time will. I don't get how people don't understand this.
Posted on 3/6/13 at 4:01 pm to Mystery
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The only other explanation is that almost all high school 40 times are bogus.
Just saw that line in the article. That is is truth. I remember the times from high school. We had guys running 4.5s in high school that I would bet my life only ran about a 4.7
Posted on 3/6/13 at 4:03 pm to memphstigers23
That article is full of holes. Wts of players increases a lot from high school senior to senior in college. Esp with regards to muscle mass. How accurate the high school 40 times really are. Where were they taken, where they wind aided, etc etc. Their conclusion is really ridiculous. That the coaches such as Saban, Miles, etc, want a slower game so that they can fit in more commercials? Just dumb.
Posted on 3/6/13 at 4:06 pm to kevg33
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That article is full of holes. Wts of players increases a lot from high school senior to senior in college. Esp with regards to muscle mass. How accurate the high school 40 times really are. Where were they taken, where they wind aided, etc etc. Their conclusion is really ridiculous. That the coaches such as Saban, Miles, etc, want a slower game so that they can fit in more commercials? Just dumb.
I think the end was tongue and cheek and he actually was saying High school 40s are bogus. At least I hope he was or he is naive as hell.
Posted on 3/6/13 at 4:09 pm to Brown Mountain
So wait, you mean HS 40 times are not accurate?
Posted on 3/6/13 at 4:14 pm to Mystery
I went to a high school combine. The timers in the 40 were chatting it up while they were timing the runners. I saw one where the guy was literally facing another coach saying something while a kid was running his 40. He turned just before the kid crossed the finish line.
I would think the times at these things are all over the map. If you run enough of them, you'll get somebody with a quick trigger who shaves a bunch off your time.
These days, you'll have a chance to do UA, Nike SPARQ, NUC, Next Level, several team camps and a lot of these kids will do more than one of each (for example, I think some of them went to New Orleans SPARQ, then went to Houston too).
I'm probably forgetting a bunch.
I'm sure some of these camps -- maybe Nike or UA -- have electronic times, but for the most part, I think they are hand-timed. Eventually, you'll find a quick trigger that's going to make you look good.
I would think the times at these things are all over the map. If you run enough of them, you'll get somebody with a quick trigger who shaves a bunch off your time.
These days, you'll have a chance to do UA, Nike SPARQ, NUC, Next Level, several team camps and a lot of these kids will do more than one of each (for example, I think some of them went to New Orleans SPARQ, then went to Houston too).
I'm probably forgetting a bunch.
I'm sure some of these camps -- maybe Nike or UA -- have electronic times, but for the most part, I think they are hand-timed. Eventually, you'll find a quick trigger that's going to make you look good.
This post was edited on 3/6/13 at 4:17 pm
Posted on 3/6/13 at 4:15 pm to CourseyCorridor
IIRC Jeryl ran a lazer time at the opening
Posted on 3/6/13 at 9:25 pm to memphstigers23
Once on an NFL roster, guess how many times a player will be timed in the 40 again?
Posted on 3/6/13 at 9:27 pm to Brown Mountain
Sam Montgomery ran a 4.44 in high school? I guess that's why he was called Sonic Sam
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