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Tiger n Miami AU83
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birmingham has really started to improve in, especially in the dining arena.


Yeah, I B-ham has some good resturants. I used to get a $18/night per diem when I was working at Healthsouth and there were lots of good places to eat. Also in the 5 points area.

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defend their politicians


It is a travesty anyone defends Langford. I kept up with his corruption stuff from a distance and the man is a flat out crook. But apparently the populus sees him as a victim for some twisted fricked up incomprehensible reason. He stole from them and fricked B-ham in the arse repeatedly with no lube, but that seems to be fine and the populus that defends him seems to be saying thank you, another round of butt-fricking please.



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Aubie Spr96
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Lived in Bham my whole life. My family has been here for over 100 years. Unfortunately, the city has been run into the ground since Arrington was mayor and turned down the Atlanta airport.





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RCDfan1950
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The city runs a massive deficit, and is county seat of Jefferson County, which recently cut a deal with a European bank as part of the largest government bankruptcy in U.S. history


WTF I thought Europe was further over the cliff that us. Who in the hell over there, that had sense enough to still have money to lend, would now be stupid enough to lend it to the heathen up there in B'ham?

I smell a rat. If the books were opened (and they won't be), you can bet that the money will be backed by OUR FED, somewhere in the digital ethers.

This stuff is gearing up for a major fail. And it is a GOD AWFUL SHAME and a sin what the DEMOCRATIC PARTY has done to the Black populous. I know that poor blacks went for it...but ultimate responsiblity rests on them a the top.







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L.A.
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Racial parity in Birmingham government jobs was reached -- in part -- by means of racial preferences and hiring quotas in some departments. The Birmingham fire department's racial quota system was one example. One black firefighter was asked what he thought about white firefighters who were disadvantaged by affirmative action. He responded:

So whites are saying, 'Yeah, they did 'em wrong, there's no doubt about that, but we don't want to do anything to help correct it. It wasn't our fault. I wasn't here.' Well, okay, if it wasn't your fault, and if you weren't the recipient of what your forefathers did, or whatever, then, why... when we [blacks] take a test, [do] you [whites] always come out number one?

Some, in the birthplace of the civil rights movement, evidently see equal test scores as an entitlement. A similar mentality might lie at the root of Birmingham's problems, including an ongoing discrimination lawsuit against the city.

In 2010, a white senior accountant for the City of Birmingham -- Virginia Spidle, a 24-year employee -- was fired for supposed racism. Her firing came shortly after she raised questions about the city's disastrous financial accounting. The county personnel board cleared her of the racism charge, and reinstated her employment. However, a week after returning to her job, her management fired her again for alleged incompetence.

Spidle filed a federal lawsuit against Mayor William Bell's administration in early January 2013, claiming "his administration was the true perpetrator of racial discrimination."






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CaptainBrannigan
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So he is saying blame the blacks?





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udtiger
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This is why we can't have nice things.





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DeltaDoc
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There is always a "trap" -- always someone else to blame. That resolute avoidance of personal responsibility, writ large, must be a major part of the city's problems. But such cultural and moral concerns are not part of the current civil rights agenda. Much more important was a program through which Mayor Langford provided laptops to children, in all government schools, in first through fifth grade.


This is the damn mirror image of Obama running the nation.






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roygu
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Ken Hamblen,the self-titled Black Avenger, host of the Ken Hamblin Show, repeatedly said, "show me a city with a black liberal mayor, and after a few years I'll show you a city that looks like a third world country?.





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Crimson1st
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It is a travesty anyone defends Langford. I kept up with his corruption stuff from a distance and the man is a flat out crook. But apparently the populus sees him as a victim for some twisted fricked up incomprehensible reason. He stole from them and fricked B-ham in the arse repeatedly with no lube, but that seems to be fine and the populus that defends him seems to be saying thank you, another round of butt-fricking please.


What gets me is that most all these idiots who defend Langford will NEVER approach the lifestyle of privilege he lived whilst free. I mean damn if I could have had just a fraction of his "luck" at the casino for example, I'd be set for life. It's the same mentality of the dumbf*cks who don't have two dimes to rub together who elect Obama just because he's black. WTF? These Langford/Obama types wouldn't give a shite about the plight of the poor black person as an individual. The only reason the rank and file blacks get any love from the Dem leaders is for the block of votes they bring to the table as a group. The Langford/Obama types cozy up with whites left and right, live the life of Riley, and to borrow the meme, are "the reason we can't have nice things". The poor blacks are the ones who suffer the most from the Langford/Obama types but time after time, who is there off the top to do their bidding? Yep the same people shouldering the burden. The politicians will never have to answer for this opulence they garner either unless, as in Langford's case, they get reined in from being too wide open in their crookedness and trust me it takes a LOT to make that happen. It's sad to see people being used as tools like that when they defend crooks.



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RCDfan1950
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We can see where this is goin. Demands for bailouts...no accountability...payback/reparations!

So, Ben keeps printing, effectively transferring - through inflation - the savings of those who have accumulated savings - to them who have nothing other than government subsidies. Inflation only matters to them who have DOLLARS, and who are in the private economy. Government COLAS cover the entitlements; ALL 'entitlements' now lumped into a singular kitty, with qualifiers as per 'affirmative action, minority set asides, special programs, etc.'

I reckon this should be another thread; but the collapse of B'h, is a symptomatic and portends of what is just around the corner. This is a genuine mess, and one which seems to have no painless answer. Republican or Libertarian...or Jesus from on high for that matter.







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CaptainBrannigan
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I like how all of you in this thread are so misinformed. Jefferson County is the one that is going bankrupt, because of teh corrupt sewer deal. It is not the city of Birmingham.

Birmingham's issues have little to dowith the Democratic party or black people. It is shifting demographic and industry that leftarea that hurt the city as a whole. White Flight hit Birmingham hard and they did not respond well.






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Tiger n Miami AU83
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I like how all of you in this thread are so misinformed. Jefferson County is the one that is going bankrupt, because of teh corrupt sewer deal. It is not the city of Birmingham.

Birmingham's issues have little to dowith the Democratic party or black people. It is shifting demographic and industry that leftarea that hurt the city as a whole. White Flight hit Birmingham hard and they did not respond well.


The leadership in B-ham and the backroom deals are exactly why Jefferson County went bankrupt. Taking care of their buddies, awarding contracts to complete dumbfricks at triple the actual cost because the elected officials wanted to take care of someone, the theft and corruption in the mayoral office, etc. They are exactly what bankrupted JC and it lies at the feet of the people in power (primarily in Bham who happen to be about 70-75% black). They made the deals. They stole the money. They mismanaged the money. And the populus of Bham in large part put and keeps them in power.

People that defend Langford in any way are fools. The crook had like 150 Armani and other thousand dollar suits he never wore and lived an insane lifestyle of a multi-millionaire on a salary probably in line with what I make. And I ain't rich. At all. And own zero $1k suits. The people that live in JC (including B-ham) and pay the highest fricking sales tax in the nation are predominantly dirt poor. Yet they pay for all that shite for that a-hole, then turn around and defend him. Brainless idiots.



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The leadership in B-ham and the backroom deals are exactly why Jefferson County went bankrupt. Taking care of their buddies, awarding contracts to complete dumbfricks at triple the actual cost because the elected officials wanted to take care of someone, the theft and corruption in the mayoral office, etc. They are exactly what bankrupted JC and it lies at the feet of the people in power (primarily in Bham who happen to be about 70-75% black). They made the deals. They stole the money. They mismanaged the money. And the populus of Bham in large part put and keeps them in power.



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People that defend Langford in any way are fools. The crook had like 150 Armani and other thousand dollar suits he never wore and lived an insane lifestyle of a multi-millionaire on a salary probably in line with what I make. And I ain't rich. At all. And own zero $1k suits. The people that live in JC (including B-ham) and pay the highest fricking sales tax in the nation are predominantly dirt poor. Yet they pay for all that shite for that a-hole, then turn around and defend him. Brainless idiots.



Yep. I worked at a gas station in Fairfielf about 2005. He drove an Escalade and used a county gas card to fill it up. And bought 3 packs of Salem Menthols every other day. Nice guy though, I can see why people would vote for him






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GoCrazyAuburn
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Exactly.


I love being called uninformed about the city I am involved in

The sewer deal expedited the process, but JC was long on the way to bankruptcy. Only a matter of time IMO.



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CaptainBrannigan
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The sewer deal expedited the process, but JC was long on the way to bankruptcy


But that is not the city of Birmingham.


I was mainly talking to the people who have never been to Bham, reading that garbage article as truth.






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Crimson1st
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I like how all of you in this thread are so misinformed. Jefferson County is the one that is going bankrupt, because of teh corrupt sewer deal. It is not the city of Birmingham. Birmingham's issues have little to dowith the Democratic party or black people. It is shifting demographic and industry that leftarea that hurt the city as a whole. White Flight hit Birmingham hard and they did not respond well.


Nobody is denying that it was Jefferson County that went bankrupt but as goes Birmingham, so goes the county. As Tiger pointed out, the two entities are joined at the hip in the corruption. Hell a small park is all that separates the county leaders and the city leaders. We could start listing the ails of Birmingham as a CITY, forget Jefferson County, and come up with a long list. When Arrington took over, the downhill slide began so the is definitely mismanagement culpability in the mix. That's undeniable.






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GoCrazyAuburn
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Gotcha, my bad


Though, I wouldn't say his article is false. The failings of the city of bham are largely responsible for the failings of JC.



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It is just beyond pitiful now and getting worse with no end in sight.


hyperbole...yes, there are many problems but downtown has improved quite a bit with restaurants, entertainment spots, the new ball park, the Westin, continued growth in professionals in the loft areas. Innovation Depot continues to be a bright spot as well.

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Meanwhile, the populus wants to blame someone, but they don't really have anyone to blame except the very people they put in office, yet still want to find a way to defend. Sadly probably because those people are of the same skin color so they feel compelled to defend them for ruining and continuing to ruin the city.


there are many things systemically wrong with Alabama in general. An archaic constitution, lack of home rule and a screwed up tax system are big ones. But being pathetic voters isn't something the black folks have a monopoly on. I mean we just re-elected Roy Moore...a good majority of Alabama voters vote based on party, race or religion.







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Tiger n Miami AU83
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But being pathetic voters isn't something the black folks have a monopoly on. I mean we just re-elected Roy Moore...a good majority of Alabama voters vote based on party, race or religion.


Very much agree. I know some of my posts come across as racist in this thread, but the particular situation of B-ham and its deterioration with its primarily black demographics and politics make it impossible to avoid in this instance. And I am not going to mince words to be more "PC".

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hyperbole...yes, there are many problems but downtown has improved quite a bit with restaurants, entertainment spots, the new ball park, the Westin, continued growth in professionals in the loft areas. Innovation Depot continues to be a bright spot as well.


Good to know. It has been about 5 years since I have been back to the Ham. Came back when my old highschool dedicated/renamed the basketball gym. Family left the Ham about 10 years ago for the gulf coast for good.






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I like how all of you in this thread are so misinformed. Jefferson County is the one that is going bankrupt, because of teh corrupt sewer deal. It is not the city of Birmingham.

Birmingham's issues have little to dowith the Democratic party or black people. It is shifting demographic and industry that leftarea that hurt the city as a whole. White Flight hit Birmingham hard and they did not respond well.




who was head of the county commission when the sewer system was planned, and "bid"? what job did he hold after county commisioner? what political party was he affiliated with?






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