re: Discussion: Top 200 Movies We Agree Don't Suck - 2.0

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what I have heard is that a movie must be mentioned at-least 5 times for it to make the list.

so a film which gets 4 #1s won't get ranked

while a film if ranked high enough with 5 #40 will get ranked.

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This is true in theory but it never happens.

First, the minimum threshold is flexible. It depends on the votes.

Second, really a small selection of films gets number one, so that really shouldn't happen. And I keep an eye on things like this.

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My list mixes in some comedies that weren't exactly critically acclaimed.

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Your list also has like one movie made before the 1990's to present...the Godfathers.

I take it you're under 20 years old...you should look at other lists and watch some of those as well.

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1. Dial M for Murder (1954) Hitchcock
2. To Kill A Mockingbird (1962) Mulligan
3. Seven Samurai (1954) Kurosawa
4. The Godfather 1 & 2 (1972 & 1974) Copolla
5. Psycho (1960) Hitchcock
6. Gone With the Wind (1939) Fleming
7. Chinatown (1974) Not deserving of a mention
8. The Hidden Fortress (1958) Kurosawa
9. Silence of the Lambs (1991) Demme
10. Blade Runner (1980) Scott
11. Lord of the Rings Trilogy (2001-2003)
12. Once Upon a Time in the West (1968) Leone
12. Citizen Kane (1941) Welles
13. The Sandlot (1993) Evans
14. Sin City (2005) Miller
15. The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly (1966) Leone
16. No Country for Old Men (2007) Coen Bros.
17. Witness for the Prosecution (1957) Wilder
18. Pan's Labyrinth (2006) del Toro
19. Goldfinger (1964) Hamilton
20. Dumb and Dumber (1994) Farrelly
21. The Birds (1963) Hitchcock
22. House of Flying Daggers (2004) Zhang
23. The Outlaw Josey Wales (1976) Eastwood
24. The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance (1962) Ford
25. The Lion King (1994) Allers & Minkoff
26. Back to the Future 1 & 2 (1985 & 1989) Zemekis
27. The Magnificent Seven (1960) Sturges
28. My Darling Clementine (1946) Ford
29. Kill Bill vol. 1 & 2 (2003, 2004) Tarantino
30. The Muppet Movie (1979) Frawley
31. Finding Nemo (2003) Stanton
32. Casablanca (1942) Curtiz
33. Tombstone (1993) Cosmatos
34. Eight Men Out (1988) Sayles
35. The Assasination of Jessie James by the Coward Robert Ford (2007) Dominik
36. Shadow of a Doubt (1943) Hitchcock
37. The Jungle Book (1967) Reitherman
38. The Dark Knight (2008) Nolan
39. Taxi Driver (1976) Scorsese
40. Se7en (1995) Fincher

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My #1 might not get another vote. Which will be a travesty. As well as my #8, 13, 14, 17, 19, 21, 22, 26, 27, 28, 30, 31, 33, 34, 36, and 37.

You should be. you're grounded.

Take out Unforgiven and throw it in there.

Freaux, you need to regulate in the voting thread. Some dude just listed his top 40 alphabetically which makes American Beauty his #1 movie, so yeah, there's that. Oh and the guy before that has Walk Hard as his #3 movie. Of all time. Walk. Hard. I normally try not to bang on lists too often unless it's just something, well, yeah.

So with that in mind, I think we need to implement some sort of factor in the counting for movies that only appear on one ballot.

Someone else just named 1 movie, I RA'ed to see if we can get that deleted from the thread

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Freaux, you need to regulate in the voting thread. Some dude just listed his top 40 alphabetically which makes American Beauty his #1 movie, so yeah, there's that.

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I'll post a notice in that thread.

Baloo - Can my posts remain as long as they are necessary? In the voting thread I mean.

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Oh and the guy before that has Walk Hard as his #3 movie. Of all time. Walk. Hard. I normally try not to bang on lists too often unless it's just something, well, yeah.

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Eh, we can't make judges against quality. If you want to rag on that guy, then I get to rag on people putting Godfather in the Top 10 (so overrated, its quality is merely part of the cultural subconscious now actually) right? We can't just give an assumption of quality to some films and not others. That's not fair, as much as it pains you to see that, others will be pained by your list as well. I'm certain of it.. I apologize for being harsh on this point, but it's true.

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So with that in mind, I think we need to implement some sort of factor in the counting for movies that only appear on one ballot.

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There's nothing to keep in mind, the system is what it is. It ONLY breaks down towards the end of a list to get to our desired Film total.

If we are at 170 and we want to get to 200, I'll make the decisions based on a close look at the rest of the votes, and a little bit of personal opinion on what should or shouldn't make it.

Then, AND ONLY THEN, if we are at 199 and I have two films left to choose, one is Baby's Day Out an the other is Dead Poet's Society, will I make a judgement call.

I was more just calling your attention to the alphabetical order list and then ranting on that other guy's Trust me, I know for a fact people will have problems with mine

My part at the end about the penalty for being only on a few was to bring the topic back up. I know we had talked about it a long time ago to try to limit the effects of a fanboy making a movie #1 on his ballot and it appears nowhere else and still makes the list.

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I was more just calling your attention to the alphabetical order list and then ranting on that other guy's Trust me, I know for a fact people will have problems with mine

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Wait until I redo mine. From top to bottom. Again. Haha.

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My part at the end about the penalty for being only on a few was to bring the topic back up. I know we had talked about it a long time ago to try to limit the effects of a fanboy making a movie #1 on his ballot and it appears nowhere else and still makes the list.

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Right, hence the vote threshold. No worries.

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I need to get cracking on mine. I have all of my lists from the different decades we have done so I am going to compile those plus add what few films I might have from the past 3 years that haven't been on an MWADS list yet and the start ordering. Naming a #1 for me will be difficult becuase that probably changes on a day by day basis between my favorites.

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It's a tough call, I had a long process of really finding my top 5, I tried to be as defined as possible.

Asking myself "Which one of these I liked the best?" was too vague of a question, and too hard to answer. So I defined, for myself, what a "perfect film experience" would entail. And I went from there.


The reason Throne of Blood is, and probably always will be, at the top my list is because I think it is the very nature of film itself. It is the filter of everything that came before, and part of the fabric of everything that came after. ToB represents the intersection of theater, film, literature, performance, and history all wrapped in one tightly knit package (Honestly, I think the 100-110 minute mark is stuff of great film).

It's the other 4 that may slightly shift, but I tried to be as specific as possible with my number one.