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re: Cap update: ~$2m over, Will Smith update: still fat
Posted on 2/28/13 at 3:05 pm to Chad504boy
Posted on 2/28/13 at 3:05 pm to Chad504boy
Why in the hell would we cut our most versatile and best RB... 
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Posted on 2/28/13 at 3:16 pm to deuce985
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Why in the hell would we cut our most versatile and best RB...
He's our most expensive.
Our staff is committed to Ingram.
Sproles is arguably our most versatile.
Ivory is arguably our best runner.
Cadet is arguably more than capable to be our 4th back.
Posted on 2/28/13 at 3:18 pm to deuce985
I love PT, but I honeslty wouldn't be surprised if he was cut or traded. Especially since he was so close to being traded a couple of years ago to NE.
Posted on 2/28/13 at 3:39 pm to htran90
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isn't the primary job of a 3-4DE to run stop...? wasn't he extremely horrible even in doing that? correct me if I'm wrong
People are really confused about this. He got himself out of position by often times going really wide on his pass rush. That was the problem, and that is only a 4-3 problem. That would not happen in a 3-4. Also, the OLB's were awful and made the d-line look worse at stopping the run than they actually were.
Also, people keep saying he has no experience playing 3-4 DE. This has been repeated multiple times, but Will Smith actually played a lot of DE on a three man line in the Gregg Williams defense. Shanle and Fujita were used a lot as 3-4 OLB'S.
Posted on 2/28/13 at 3:39 pm to Chad504boy
Cadet hasn't proved anything in the NFL yet. Ivory runs hard and I like him but you have to wonder about his ball security issues at times.
PT is probably our most versatile back. He's an all-around good RB, decent pass blocker, arguably one of the most underrated(if not best) screen back in the game, and rarely fumbles. The way Payton uses RBs, I'm not sure how you could justify getting rid of him despite those points. Only thing Sproles does better than PT is he's a better receiving threat and has homerun speed+ST. It's not like PT is making 10 million a year. They have far more deserving people to be cut before him, IMO.
I think PT does pretty much everything you can possibly ask from him. He's not amazing in any one area in particular(except maybe his screen back ability), he just does everything good. The very definition of versatility. He even plays ST too.
PT is probably our most versatile back. He's an all-around good RB, decent pass blocker, arguably one of the most underrated(if not best) screen back in the game, and rarely fumbles. The way Payton uses RBs, I'm not sure how you could justify getting rid of him despite those points. Only thing Sproles does better than PT is he's a better receiving threat and has homerun speed+ST. It's not like PT is making 10 million a year. They have far more deserving people to be cut before him, IMO.
I think PT does pretty much everything you can possibly ask from him. He's not amazing in any one area in particular(except maybe his screen back ability), he just does everything good. The very definition of versatility. He even plays ST too.
This post was edited on 2/28/13 at 3:43 pm
Posted on 2/28/13 at 3:57 pm to Chad504boy
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It's the classic "well he's not that good of a pass rusher anymore so he must be better suited for a 3-4 now theory". It's bullshite
Nope, you are misunderstanding what's being said. It's more like "he is no longer a great edge pass rusher, but he is a big, strong guy with a pretty good bull rush. His best assets and his size make him a better fit for a 3-4." What I said and what you said are completely different.
Posted on 2/28/13 at 3:59 pm to landrywasbeast30
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but he is a big, strong guy with a pretty good bull rush.
But he's not. He gets handled.
Posted on 2/28/13 at 4:03 pm to Chad504boy
Yep. He's a 4-3 DE that has allowed himself to get out of shape. He's more fat than strong.
Posted on 2/28/13 at 4:23 pm to Patrick O Rly
he's fat and strong. Being bigger means he's harder to move.
Posted on 2/28/13 at 4:29 pm to Lester Earl
Tell that to the OT's who escort him out of the play on the regular.
Posted on 2/28/13 at 4:33 pm to Patrick O Rly
He's a great book end. And his book ended long ago. Time for the next chapter not from his book. Sense? Made some? Yeah?
Posted on 2/28/13 at 4:33 pm to Patrick O Rly
While recording a platinum album
Posted on 2/28/13 at 4:35 pm to whodatfan
Oh, but he's so strong!
Posted on 2/28/13 at 4:37 pm to Patrick O Rly
He's 300lbs give or take 16lbs
Posted on 2/28/13 at 4:39 pm to Lester Earl
lets look at some 3-4 DEs
Antonio Smith HOU 6'4" 285
Darnell Dockett AZ 6'3 290
Pernell McPhee BALT 6'3" 280
CJ Wilson GB 6'3" 290
Jerrell Worthy GB 6'2" 308
Mike Devito JETs 6'3" 305
Ziggy Hood Pitt 6'3" 300
Brett Keisel Pitt 6'4" 285
Corey Liuget SD 6'2" 298
Ray McDonald SF 6'3" 290
Justin Smith SF 6'4" 285
such mammoth guys!!
Antonio Smith HOU 6'4" 285
Darnell Dockett AZ 6'3 290
Pernell McPhee BALT 6'3" 280
CJ Wilson GB 6'3" 290
Jerrell Worthy GB 6'2" 308
Mike Devito JETs 6'3" 305
Ziggy Hood Pitt 6'3" 300
Brett Keisel Pitt 6'4" 285
Corey Liuget SD 6'2" 298
Ray McDonald SF 6'3" 290
Justin Smith SF 6'4" 285
such mammoth guys!!
Posted on 2/28/13 at 4:41 pm to Lester Earl
Will smaller than all except for someone I never heard of
Posted on 2/28/13 at 4:42 pm to Lester Earl
Yeah, because Weight = Strength. 
Posted on 2/28/13 at 4:43 pm to Chad504boy
3-4 ends are generally no names.
you should do some research
you should do some research
Posted on 2/28/13 at 4:44 pm to Lester Earl
More reason we should be ok letting him go
Posted on 2/28/13 at 4:44 pm to Lester Earl
Oh, you googled player weights and you're Mike Freaking Mayock all of the sudden.
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