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re: A Spurs vs Heat finals

Posted on 2/22/13 at 9:42 am to
Posted by jturn17
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 2/22/13 at 9:42 am to
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I watch Miami and all I see if Bron/Wade/Bosh/Chalmers



You don't see Battier and Ray Allen hitting 3s? Or Haslem grabbing rebounds and taking charges? Or Cole playing tough on-ball defense?

Players have roles on teams. Them performing those roles within the scheme is what makes a team.
Posted by jturn17
Member since Jan 2011
4978 posts
Posted on 2/22/13 at 9:43 am to
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They don't, but their style of play has the best shot over the 1-on-1 styles of the Clips and Thunder to beat Miami IMO.


That wasn't a reference to you. It was a reference to those who still think the Spurs are boring, and don't want him in the Finals because of it.
Posted by boXerrumble
Member since Sep 2011
52279 posts
Posted on 2/22/13 at 9:45 am to
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I watch Miami and all I see if Bron/Wade/Bosh/Chalmers


And you don't see Allen, Birdman, Cole, Battier, and Anthony?

The Heat this year have become the team everyone feared they would become when they came together 2 years ago.
Posted by danfraz
San Antonio TX
Member since Apr 2008
24550 posts
Posted on 2/22/13 at 9:46 am to
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You don't see Battier and Ray Allen hitting 3s? Or Haslem grabbing rebounds and taking charges? Or Cole playing tough on-ball defense? Players have roles on teams. Them performing those roles within the scheme is what makes a team



I see some of that, not all though

You act like I am saying they are not impressive or won't win it all.

I'm just saying who if anyone has a better shot to beat them in a 7 game series


Who exactly in the EAST could beat Miami over 7 games other than the Pacers?

From the West I say LAC or OKC (both not likely). I'd see Miami learning how to defeat SA in game one or two and SA not being able to do anything different after that and the series would be over
Posted by jturn17
Member since Jan 2011
4978 posts
Posted on 2/22/13 at 9:52 am to
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You act like I am saying they are not impressive or won't win it all.



I'm really just referencing you saying the Pacers play better as a team than the Heat, and I don't think that's accurate. I just think you're conflating how much people contribute with how people work within a scheme. The role players for the Heat are obviously going to do less because they have a more simplified role than players on the Pacers would. That's all.

I guess the Pacers are the toughest challenge, but I don't think their talented enough to really challenge the Heat at full health. If the Knicks could shoot 45% from 3 for a series, they'd have a chance, maybe.

As far as the West goes, I think OKC is the toughest challenge because they've got the talent. The Spurs are a good team, but I don't think match up as well once the rotations shorten. The Spurs really struggled offensively against the Thunder's athleticism, and it would be compounded with Wade and LeBron being focused defensively and in the passing lanes.
Posted by corndeaux
Member since Sep 2009
9634 posts
Posted on 2/22/13 at 10:11 am to
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I guess the Pacers are the toughest challenge


If Hibbert shows up and can play 35-40 minutes, two big ifs at this point, the Heat could get uncomfortable.

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I think OKC is the toughest challenge because they've got the talent.


Durant is the only guy in the world who can even come close to keeping up with LeBron. Even then, probably still not enough. Thunder are going to regret not dumping Perkins and keeping Harden.
Posted by corndeaux
Member since Sep 2009
9634 posts
Posted on 2/22/13 at 10:11 am to
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This post was edited on 2/22/13 at 10:16 am
Posted by elposter
Member since Dec 2010
24857 posts
Posted on 2/22/13 at 10:21 am to
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Spurs aren't very fun to watch


Best team to watch in the NBA. Could you expound on why you think they are not fun to watch?
Posted by jturn17
Member since Jan 2011
4978 posts
Posted on 2/22/13 at 10:21 am to
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If Hibbert shows up and can play 35-40 minutes, two big ifs at this point, the Heat could get uncomfortable.
Of course, he won't, and he's not really capable of that many minutes. He's only played >35m 5 times this season out of 54 games. And even in the playoffs last season, he only had 1 game >35m out of 11.
Posted by danfraz
San Antonio TX
Member since Apr 2008
24550 posts
Posted on 2/22/13 at 10:44 am to
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how much people contribute with how people work within a scheme. The role players for the Heat are obviously going to do less because they have a more simplified role than players on the Pacers would. That's all



i can agree with that. Just a difference in view.

Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110649 posts
Posted on 2/22/13 at 11:47 am to
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From the West I say LAC or OKC (both not likely). I'd see Miami learning how to defeat SA in game one or two and SA not being able to do anything different after that and the series would be over

I see it the complete opposite.

I think Miami would absolutely love to see LAC or OKC in the Finals as opposed to San Antonio.
Posted by DesignatedT
San Antonio
Member since Aug 2011
1043 posts
Posted on 2/22/13 at 7:58 pm to
I think a Spurs/Heat finals would be epic. It would be super-team vs super-star.

Spoelstra goin against Popovich would also be very interesting.
Posted by thenry712
Zasullia, Ukraine
Member since Nov 2008
15795 posts
Posted on 2/22/13 at 8:02 pm to
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I still think they are going to have a tough time stopping Durant to even get to the finals.


Durant didn't really kill them in the WCF last year. It was more of a combination of Harden, Durant, and Ibaka and Perkins getting a ton of offensive boards.

Kawhi Leonard is probably one of the few defenders in the league who can limit Durant's field goal percentage.
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