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CptBengal
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2 out of every 3 Americans have no more 4th or 1st A rights because DHS says so


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Two out of every three people reading this could have your electronic devices searched, without there being any reasonable suspicion, because the Department of Homeland Security has decided that such search and seizures do not violate your Fourth Amendment protection against unreasonable search and seizure. Border agents don’t need probable cause and they don’t need a stinking warrant since they don’t need to prove any reasonable suspicion first. Nor, sadly, do two out of three people have First Amendment protection; it is as if DHS has voided those Constitutional amendments and protections they provide to nearly 200 million Americans.


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Drew Orleans
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re: 2 out of every 3 Americans have no more 4th or 1st A rights because DHS says so


What makes qualifies you to become one of the 2/3?





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chris44gwlsu
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re: 2 out of every 3 Americans have no more 4th or 1st A rights because DHS says so


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Those numbers come from the ACLU’s estimates of how many people live within 100 miles of the United States border, since Homeland Security’s Office for Civil Rights and Civil Liberties (CLCR) concluded that border searches of electronic devices do not violate the Fourth Amendment.








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CptBengal
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re: 2 out of every 3 Americans have no more 4th or 1st A rights because DHS says so


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What makes qualifies you to become one of the 2/3?



so we should only care if we are the ones who are having our unalienable rights stripped?






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UncleFestersLegs
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re: 2 out of every 3 Americans have no more 4th or 1st A rights because DHS says so


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Can you sue an agency for policy which deprives you of your rights?


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In the United States, the federal government has sovereign immunity and may not be sued unless it has waived its immunity or consented to suit. See Gray v. Bell, 712 F.2d 490, 507 (D.C. Cir. 1983).






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Drew Orleans
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re: 2 out of every 3 Americans have no more 4th or 1st A rights because DHS says so


Hell no. I'm a libertarian man. I care more about this than most. Just can't open the link while at work.





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udtiger
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re: 2 out of every 3 Americans have no more 4th or 1st A rights because DHS says so


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In the United States, the federal government has sovereign immunity and may not be sued unless it has waived its immunity or consented to suit. See Gray v. Bell, 712 F.2d 490, 507 (D.C. Cir. 1983).


42 USC 1983






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deltaland
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re: 2 out of every 3 Americans have no more 4th or 1st A rights because DHS says so


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this could have your electronic devices searched


DHS is you're reading this you can go DIAF and take Obama with you






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carbola
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re: 2 out of every 3 Americans have no more 4th or 1st A rights because DHS says so





Maybe it's time to move to Iowa or something....






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Drew Orleans
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re: 2 out of every 3 Americans have no more 4th or 1st A rights because DHS says so


Oh shite I thought it was the boarders next to other countries... It's all boarders?





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udtiger
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re: 2 out of every 3 Americans have no more 4th or 1st A rights because DHS says so


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Oh shite I thought it was the boarders next to other countries... It's all boarders?


I will not be a spelling Nazi...I will not be a spelling Nazi.

Snowballs in Hll have a better survival chance than this.






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WildTchoupitoulas
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I will not be a spelling Nazi...I will not be a spelling Nazi.

Prepare for boarders!



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DonChowder
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I would expect the ACLU to file something with regards to this. They'll remain quietly abstinent on anything related to the 2nd but they will pick something up on this.


This post was edited on 2/20 at 11:24 am


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Drew Orleans
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re: 2 out of every 3 Americans have no more 4th or 1st A rights because DHS says so


Yeah, my bad. I'm usually better with that. When other mess up I have to tell myself the same thing.





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