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Posted on 2/19/13 at 2:45 pm to H-Town Tiger
ncsu would be a good get for the conference compared to most of the rumored teams, especially wake 
Posted on 2/19/13 at 2:45 pm to 12Pence
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You can pretty much see any game you want now due to the growing demand of college sports.
Still missing the point
Posted on 2/19/13 at 2:47 pm to Keys Open Doors
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The ACC is nowhere near the shambles of the Big East four months ago.
It's a bad sign if your spin control is to invoke the Big East. Maybe it isn't, but it still ain't healthy.
Posted on 2/19/13 at 2:48 pm to Baloo
I am just saying that 6 teams aren't going to leave the ACC in the next four months. Also, a guy from West Virginia's equivalent of Tigerdroppings does not have a scoop on a national story like this (that no one has uncovered for the past 4 months).
Posted on 2/19/13 at 2:50 pm to Keys Open Doors
Yea, I'm pretty sure the NC schools want to stay together. It really would be a shame for Duke, UNC, and State to not be in the same conference, considering how intimately all three schools work together and the community in the triangle.
Posted on 2/19/13 at 2:55 pm to Baloo
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OR Penn St is starting to feel nervous.
hum, interesting. kind of ironic since Paterno always wanted to join the Big East anyway, if they wound up there thanks to the scandal
Posted on 2/19/13 at 2:56 pm to DollaChoppa
I think UNC has a lot of power in this whole situation.
I know their administration looks down on the ACC big time, but if they go to the Big 10, it may really give NC State a favorable situation when they join the SEC.
I think all four North Carolina schools have a huge incentive to stay in the ACC, as do the schools like Clemson and FSU since neither the Big 10 nor SEC are viable options.
The best case scenario for the conference is for the MD lawsuit to take a very long time. That way, the Big 12 grant of rights clock will keep ticking away.
I know their administration looks down on the ACC big time, but if they go to the Big 10, it may really give NC State a favorable situation when they join the SEC.
I think all four North Carolina schools have a huge incentive to stay in the ACC, as do the schools like Clemson and FSU since neither the Big 10 nor SEC are viable options.
The best case scenario for the conference is for the MD lawsuit to take a very long time. That way, the Big 12 grant of rights clock will keep ticking away.
This post was edited on 2/19/13 at 2:57 pm
Posted on 2/19/13 at 2:56 pm to Keys Open Doors
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I am just saying that 6 teams aren't going to leave the ACC in the next four months. Also, a guy from West Virginia's equivalent of Tigerdroppings does not have a scoop on a national story like this (that no one has uncovered for the past 4 months).
This. I'm surprised this thread made it 4 pages based on tweets of 2 random ppl conjecturing
Posted on 2/19/13 at 2:56 pm to Zamoro10
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Another academic feather in the cap of the Big10...and...and an awful football addition.
ATL market bro
Posted on 2/19/13 at 2:56 pm to 12Pence
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Give it a rest with the markets. You can pretty much see any game you want now due to the growing demand of college sports. Do you really believe fans in North Carolina, Texas, Michigan, Oregon, etc are not actively paying attention and watching SEC sports? Same can be said in SEC country.
That isn't how it works. Even though the Big Ten Network may be offered currently in areas it doesn't receive the money it is guaranteed by cable providers if there is a Big Ten team in the market. Expansion into a market means a lot more money. Additionally, the Big Ten Network deal gets renegotiated in 2017. I'm hearing numbers like $50 million a school in the first year of the deal.
Posted on 2/19/13 at 2:57 pm to Keys Open Doors
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The best case scenario for the conference is for the MD lawsuit to take a very long time.
well ND joining is probably the best case scenario but yes your point is right.
Posted on 2/19/13 at 2:57 pm to Keys Open Doors
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The ACC is nowhere near the shambles of the Big East four months ago
Not yet.
Posted on 2/19/13 at 3:00 pm to 12Pence
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Give it a rest with the markets
I'm not just making that up, that is the purpose, whether you want to accept that or not is up to you, but that is what they are doing.
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You can pretty much see any game you want now due to the growing demand of college sports.
yeah, that's not really what we are talking about.
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Do you really believe fans in North Carolina, Texas, Michigan, Oregon, etc are not actively paying attention and watching SEC sports
most people watch their teams, so if their team is in the SEC, then yes, they will watch SEC games.
The main driver is the conference networks. Currently they get paid by cable companies based on the # of subs in the market (if 1.5M peole have cable in La, then they get what ever fee they have negotiated based on that. Obviously the fee is higher in states the conference plays in, hence the desire to add new markets.
Posted on 2/19/13 at 3:03 pm to VABuckeye
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VABuckeye
thanks, you are saying it much better than I am
Posted on 2/19/13 at 3:03 pm to H-Town Tiger
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Currently they get paid by cable companies based on the # of subs in the market
BTN gets a cut for every TV in the market if there is a B1G team in the market whether they subscribe to the channel or not. Huge $$$$$$
Posted on 2/19/13 at 3:04 pm to 12Pence
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Do you really believe fans in North Carolina, Texas, Michigan, Oregon, etc are not actively paying attention and watching SEC sports?
it's not about ratings
it's about television sets with the cable/satellite package. if the Big10N is on a package, it gets money whether people watch it or not
Posted on 2/19/13 at 3:05 pm to VABuckeye
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BTN gets a cut for every TV in the market if there is a B1G team in the market whether they subscribe to the channel or not. Huge $$$$$$
yeah the B10N was way ahead of the game (the huge population centers of the B10 natural geography helped)
the Pac12 was the next to realize the market
SEC lags behind
Posted on 2/19/13 at 3:06 pm to H-Town Tiger
The narrow minded perspective about expansion amazes me. I have a dear friend who is an Ohio State fan and he bitches about every addition. If it was up to him we'd only add Texas, Oklahoma, Notre Dame, etc. I've tried to get him to see what this is all about but he refuses to acknowledge what it is really about.
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Posted on 2/19/13 at 3:07 pm to H-Town Tiger
Getting television markets is great but the quality of the conference has to come before it or we won't have a product to sell to said tv markets. I don't see why NC/Duke wouldn't be interested in the SEC. Money? SEC athletic programs are consistently among the most profitable. NC football would stand to gain immensely from becoming part of the SEC.
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