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What Do The Saints Do At Kicker
Posted on 2/19/13 at 10:52 am
Posted on 2/19/13 at 10:52 am
Boring off-season thread**
I saw a thread recently talking about how Garrett Hartley hit an escalator in his contract that bumps his salary up to over $2 mil for the year. I don't see us being able to afford a mediocre kicker at best for that price. Who do you guys want to see us do at kicker?
I know a local kid who has been getting tryouts with arena teams where he impressed and went to a regional NFL combine in LA. Kicked for 4 years at Millsaps and did well. Here is his Youtube page Maybe take a look at someone outside the league instead of the same old guys.
I saw a thread recently talking about how Garrett Hartley hit an escalator in his contract that bumps his salary up to over $2 mil for the year. I don't see us being able to afford a mediocre kicker at best for that price. Who do you guys want to see us do at kicker?
I know a local kid who has been getting tryouts with arena teams where he impressed and went to a regional NFL combine in LA. Kicked for 4 years at Millsaps and did well. Here is his Youtube page Maybe take a look at someone outside the league instead of the same old guys.
Posted on 2/19/13 at 11:20 am to Vinny V
We should give Dude Perfect a tryout
Posted on 2/19/13 at 11:42 am to Neauxla
#8 NFL alltime FG % is mediocre at best?
Posted on 2/19/13 at 11:43 am to blueslover
It's more about how he misses them. He's done it in some big spots as well.
Posted on 2/19/13 at 11:54 am to Vinny V
Maybe Hartley will...cut himself.
Posted on 2/19/13 at 12:00 pm to Vinny V
They will bring in a leg or two when camp starts.
It's on Hartley to beat them out.
Don't see him being cut before that.
This is a list of top 20 kicks for 2012.
2 Mil doesn't seem crazy.
Connor Barth, Buccaneers - $4,500,000 - Signed thru 2015
Adam Vinateri, Colts - $3,900,000 - Signed thru 2013
Phil Dawson, Browns - $3,810,000 - Signed thru 2012
David Akers, 49ers - $3,616,667 - Signed thru 2013
Stephen Gostkowski, Patriots - $2,900,000 - Signed thru 2014
Rob Bironas, Titans - $2,850,000 - Signed thru 2012
Robbie Gould, Bears - $2,825,000 - Signed thru 2013
Billy Cundiff, Ravens - $2,800,000 - Signed thru 2015
Jason Hanson, Lions - $2,550,000 - Signed thru 2012
Rudy Carpenter, Dolphins - $2,525,000 - Signed thru 2013
Olindo Mare, Panthers - $2,475,000 - Signed thru 2014
Mason Crosby, Packers - $2,400,000 - Signed thru 2015
Ryan Succop, Chiefs - $2,400,000 - Signed thru 2016
Matt Bryant, Falcons - $2,050,000 - Signed thru 2014
Nate Kaeding, Chargers - $2,000,000 - Signed thru 2012
Sebastian Janikowski, Raiders - $1,700,000 - Signed thru 2013
Shaun Suisham, Steelers - $1,687,500 - Signed thru 2014
Lawrence Tynes, Giants - $1,550,000 - Signed thru 2012
Steven Hauschka, Seahawks - $1,260,000 - Signed thru 2012
Rian Lindell, Bills - $1,000,000 - Signed thru 2015
It's on Hartley to beat them out.
Don't see him being cut before that.
This is a list of top 20 kicks for 2012.
2 Mil doesn't seem crazy.
Connor Barth, Buccaneers - $4,500,000 - Signed thru 2015
Adam Vinateri, Colts - $3,900,000 - Signed thru 2013
Phil Dawson, Browns - $3,810,000 - Signed thru 2012
David Akers, 49ers - $3,616,667 - Signed thru 2013
Stephen Gostkowski, Patriots - $2,900,000 - Signed thru 2014
Rob Bironas, Titans - $2,850,000 - Signed thru 2012
Robbie Gould, Bears - $2,825,000 - Signed thru 2013
Billy Cundiff, Ravens - $2,800,000 - Signed thru 2015
Jason Hanson, Lions - $2,550,000 - Signed thru 2012
Rudy Carpenter, Dolphins - $2,525,000 - Signed thru 2013
Olindo Mare, Panthers - $2,475,000 - Signed thru 2014
Mason Crosby, Packers - $2,400,000 - Signed thru 2015
Ryan Succop, Chiefs - $2,400,000 - Signed thru 2016
Matt Bryant, Falcons - $2,050,000 - Signed thru 2014
Nate Kaeding, Chargers - $2,000,000 - Signed thru 2012
Sebastian Janikowski, Raiders - $1,700,000 - Signed thru 2013
Shaun Suisham, Steelers - $1,687,500 - Signed thru 2014
Lawrence Tynes, Giants - $1,550,000 - Signed thru 2012
Steven Hauschka, Seahawks - $1,260,000 - Signed thru 2012
Rian Lindell, Bills - $1,000,000 - Signed thru 2015
Posted on 2/19/13 at 12:00 pm to Vinny V
"Dude perfect" has potential. Does he have a kicking coach or is just wingin it?
Hartley needs to go
living in the past
Hartley needs to go
living in the past
Posted on 2/19/13 at 12:11 pm to USAjurgen2011
so with our current cap woes we are gonna take a $600K cap hit to cut the #8 most accurate kicker in NFL history?
Past? 8 of 10 from 40-49yds and 5 of 6 beyond 50yds his past two seasons.
We need some Combine and free agent action bad around here
Past? 8 of 10 from 40-49yds and 5 of 6 beyond 50yds his past two seasons.
We need some Combine and free agent action bad around here
Posted on 2/19/13 at 12:22 pm to blueslover
So you're saying you're not down w/ Dude Perfect?
Posted on 2/19/13 at 12:38 pm to blueslover
Soccer fan Blu....soccer fan.
Posted on 2/19/13 at 12:43 pm to blueslover
quote:
#8 NFL alltime FG % is mediocre at best?
Missed some bonehead easy ones in pressure situations but made a few.
And making a load of chipshots because the offense sputtered inside the 20 isn't a testiment to his ability.
Find stats on how he measures up to kickers beyond 40 yards.
Posted on 2/19/13 at 12:45 pm to Broketec
quote:
making a load of chipshots because the offense sputtered inside the 20 isn't a testiment to his ability.
quote:
8 of 10 from 40-49yds and 5 of 6 beyond 50yds his past two seasons.
Posted on 2/19/13 at 12:56 pm to Patrick O Rly
quote:
It's more about how he misses them. He's done it in some big spots as well.
Posted on 2/19/13 at 12:57 pm to Vinny V
quote:
I don't see us being able to afford a mediocre kicker at best for that price.
Hartley is the least of our worries and cap problems. Even with the escalator, he's in the middle of the pack for kicker salaries.
Maybe Brees can take over the kicking game and fill in on a few spots on the defensive side of the ball. That would sure take some of the heat off the cap problem.
Posted on 2/19/13 at 1:34 pm to blueslover
quote:
#8 most accurate kicker in NFL history?
Small sample size. Dude has about 3 years combined worth of kicks.
Posted on 2/19/13 at 2:04 pm to gabe311
hartley is the least of our problems. he is top 3rd in the league as far as kickers go. he has also made a hell of a lot more than he missed in clutch situations.
Posted on 2/19/13 at 2:37 pm to gabe311
quote:
#8 most accurate kicker in NFL history?
Small sample size. Dude has about 3 years combined worth of kicks.
also a clear indication of when stats don't tell the entire story. Hartly is unreliable in short-medium range. We have seen him miss too many 30 yard fg's to be considered a reliable kicker, especially in some crucial situations. just this season in one game he missed an easy maker and then doinked the upright on an extra point (though the ball did go through after the doink).
he is not good, stats be damned.
Posted on 2/19/13 at 3:10 pm to Midget Death Squad
quote:
also a clear indication of when stats don't tell the entire story. Hartly is unreliable in short-medium range. We have seen him miss too many 30 yard fg's to be considered a reliable kicker, especially in some crucial situations.
agreed
Posted on 2/19/13 at 3:40 pm to Vinny V
What about Kasay? I know he's old, but I was much more comfortable with him than with Hartley.
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