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re: Watching old Siskel & Ebert Reviews

Posted on 2/17/13 at 6:35 pm to
Posted by shutterspeed
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Posted on 2/17/13 at 6:35 pm to
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Ebert was a shitty critic from a writing standpoint, too.


What are you talking about? Ebert is a Pulitzer Prize-winning writer.
Posted by shutterspeed
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Posted on 2/17/13 at 6:37 pm to
As much of a pussy and a grinch as Siskel was, Leonard Maltin was the biggest pussy of all. See if you can find his review of Saturn 3, which is hilarious.

"Filled with icky special effects."
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 2/17/13 at 6:38 pm to
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Ebert was a shitty critic from a writing standpoint, too.

What are you talking about? Ebert is a Pulitzer Prize-winning writer

Ebert wasn't that great a reviewer -- I hesitate to cal him a critic -- but he was approximately 2,786 times better than Siskel
Posted by shutterspeed
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Posted on 2/17/13 at 6:40 pm to
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Ebert wasn't that great a reviewer -- I hesitate to cal him a critic -- but he was approximately 2,786 times better than Siskel


Whaa? The vast majority of film reviewers today owe their career to Ebert.
Posted by lsufan112001
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Posted on 2/17/13 at 6:40 pm to
Ebert is a liberal, being that he is married to a black woman, he praises every black made movie.

it's just someone else's opinion anyway, so who cares all in all....

Posted by TigerMyth36
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Posted on 2/17/13 at 6:40 pm to
It wasn't just the review. Back then, it was about the only way to see trailers. They showed upcoming review trailers at the end and they showed clips during the show. That was half the reason for watching.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 2/17/13 at 6:44 pm to
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And when he dabbles in politics it really gets sordid.

i had to stop following him on twitter b/c he got way too annoying about politics
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 2/17/13 at 7:01 pm to
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The vast majority of film reviewers today owe their career to Ebert

If that's true it doesn't say much for the state of film reviewing

Andrew Sarris and Pauline Kael were far more influential than Ebert
Posted by TigerMyth36
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Posted on 2/17/13 at 7:04 pm to
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If that's true it doesn't say much for the state of film reviewing

If true, maybe we should go back in time and stop Ebert. He helped create Armond White!!!
Posted by The Eric
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Posted on 2/17/13 at 7:05 pm to
What a crock. The first time you see the dinos in J-Park I giggle like a school girl. It's very very majestic.

It's in my desert island 5
Posted by shutterspeed
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Posted on 2/17/13 at 7:09 pm to
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Andrew Sarris and Pauline Kael were far more influential than Ebert


Sarris was a film critic and theorist.

Ebert has cited Kael as his biggest influence, but Ebert put contemporary pop film reviewing on the map. Saying Kael was more influential than Ebert would be like saying Shakespeare's literature teacher was more influential. Name one film reviewer, post-1970s, who has been more influential.
Posted by Hoodoo Man
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Posted on 2/17/13 at 7:14 pm to
Honestly, Richard Roeper is a much better critic to me.

He's not so much of an elitist frickhead.
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 2/17/13 at 7:19 pm to
Ebert's TV success was influential in a way -- thought not in a good way.

Actually the most influential film critic in American history, and it's not close, was Andrew Sarris. He almost single-handedly popularized the auteur theory here. In the years since it has spread like kudzu on a Mississippi hillside, to the point that it not only dominates the academy and the media but even much casual fan discussion (Tarantino would be just another hustler without it).
Posted by shutterspeed
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Posted on 2/17/13 at 7:22 pm to
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He's not so much of an elitist frickhead.


Howso? I'll grant you his Affirmative Action review philosophy.
Posted by shutterspeed
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Posted on 2/17/13 at 7:24 pm to
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Actually the most influential film critic in American history, and it's not close, was Andrew Sarris. He almost single-handedly popularized the auteur theory here.


Apples and oranges. Sarris was a film theorist, not a popular film reviewer. No one reads Sarris for entertainment value.
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 2/17/13 at 7:28 pm to
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No one reads Sarris for entertainment value


Well I did

Ebert was not very interesting journalism and is already receding form memory, essentially an updated version of Bosley Crowther, the very influential and widely read NY Times reviewer of the '40s and '50s that no one gives a shite about today.
Posted by Hoodoo Man
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Posted on 2/17/13 at 7:28 pm to
It's just an opinion.

He seems more in touch with the average film-goer to me.
Posted by DanglingFury
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Posted on 2/17/13 at 7:29 pm to
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Actually the most influential film critic in American history, and it's not close, was Andrew Sarris




Ok, dude.
Posted by shutterspeed
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Posted on 2/17/13 at 7:31 pm to
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that no one gives a shite about today.


Well, just as "no one gives a shite about Ebert," yet they mimic his style, I can assure you even less give a shite about Sarris, though they may follow the career of certain directors.
Posted by shutterspeed
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Posted on 2/17/13 at 7:33 pm to
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He seems more in touch with the average film-goer to me.



Dude is almost 20 years younger than Ebert. Roeper is a sleazebag--the Bill Maher of film reviewers. Not a bad thing, I guess, once you accept that he's in movies more for the pussy than his film legacy.
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