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re: Karl Malone Jr
Posted on 2/16/13 at 2:51 pm to TigerMan327
Posted on 2/16/13 at 2:51 pm to TigerMan327
quote:IYO
Karl Malone is >>> Bradshaw
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Posted on 2/16/13 at 3:37 pm to LSU GrandDad
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Bradshaw
quote:
may be the best ever in the nfl;
You're obviously a big Steeler fan there old timer. I dare say you'd have a hard time finding anyone who thinks TB is even a top 10 QB of all time
Posted on 2/16/13 at 5:09 pm to biglil3
See, when Bradshaw played, there wasn't this freakin obsession with lists and legacies. Thanks to ESPN, EVERY damn player that has success has to be categorized. I'm sick of the " Is he elite, is he not" BS, along with "greatest of all time crap."
Bottom line, new timer, how many Super Bowls wins has Bradshaw Quarterbacked? Bet THIS is top ten.
Bottom line, new timer, how many Super Bowls wins has Bradshaw Quarterbacked? Bet THIS is top ten.
Posted on 2/16/13 at 6:32 pm to Cincinnati Bowtie
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Bottom line, new timer, how many Super Bowls wins has Bradshaw Quarterbacked? Bet THIS is top ten.
So we should judge individual players on their team accomplishments? Ridiculous.
Posted on 2/16/13 at 6:46 pm to LSU GrandDad
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to belittle the qb ability of terry bradshaw is pure ignorance; he may be the best ever in the nfl; without question one of the best ever to play the game.
No. He was the QB on a great team. Nowhere near one of the best ever...He wouldn't be top 20.
Posted on 2/16/13 at 6:57 pm to biglil3
Bradshaw 4-0 in the show twice against Staubach and Landry and the rest of the Cowboys Hall of Fame team. last QB to call his own plays. I think hes in the Top 10 of QB's id want under center in a big game.
Posted on 2/16/13 at 7:00 pm to LSUANDY25
name your Top 20. or just your top 10 and see if Bradsaw isnt in the chase. QB's are judged by Championships. Big Men in BBall are as well.
Posted on 2/16/13 at 8:52 pm to LSUANDY25
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Bradshaw 4-0 in the show
Nothing more needs to be said. He and Montana stand alone.
He might not be the purest quarterback ever but he's one of the two biggest winners. Highly underrated.
Posted on 2/16/13 at 9:32 pm to LSU GrandDad
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he may be the best ever in the nfl; without question one of the best ever to play the game. and saying that does not belittle malone.
While Bradshaw was a good qb, I think its extremely fair to say that his wr's made him look alot better than he was.
Posted on 2/16/13 at 9:32 pm to Cincinnati Bowtie
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Bottom line, new timer, how many Super Bowls wins has Bradshaw Quarterbacked? Bet THIS is top ten.
I loved the Steelers of the 70's and can still name almost their entire starting line up by heart. It is my opinion that Bradshaw is nowhere near the athlete that Carl Malone is. That is almost a no brainer.
As for TB being a top 10 all-time NFL QB? No. He was an excellent NFL QB who just happened to play with the greatest collection of talent ever assembled on one NFL roster. For God Sake, the '74 class alone contained Lynn Swann, John Stallworth, Jack Lambert, Mike Webster and Donny Shell. That was just one class. Bradshaw was excellent, no doubt. But there are many QB's who would have won 4 super bowls on that Steeler's Team.
Posted on 2/16/13 at 9:51 pm to KC Tiger
Bradshaw had a big arm and talented WRs but he is thought of more like Aikman than an a top ten QB of all time. And Malone was a beast a physical freak so to say he is more athletic than Bradshaw isn't really a knock on TB at all. Malone and Stockton as well just happened to be up against the GOAT pretty much his entire career.
Posted on 2/16/13 at 11:00 pm to BillyBobfan24_7
Posted on 2/17/13 at 6:09 am to jturn17
quote:Umm, it's done all the time. Would Montana be considered one of the All Time Greats if Frisco hadn't won like they did? The QB is THE most important position on the field. If you don't have a good one, your chances of being a successful team are diminished. The Great ones win. Pretty sure that is why they play the game.
So we should judge individual players on their team's accomplishments?
Posted on 2/17/13 at 7:30 am to Cincinnati Bowtie
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have you ever seen Bradshaw play, or are you a racist, just assuming an A/A basketball player is a better athlete?
Really brah??
Posted on 2/17/13 at 7:37 am to Cincinnati Bowtie
Why argue about who is the most talented or most athlletic. Both had very successful careers and did well with the talents God gave them.
Both are fine individuals, good representatives for Louisiana Tech, and for the State of Louisiana.
Both are fine individuals, good representatives for Louisiana Tech, and for the State of Louisiana.
Posted on 2/17/13 at 9:07 am to Scatmanjohn12
quote:Yeah, really....
Really Brah???
Nobody has defined "Athletic" here.
Would Malone look very "Athletic" standing in the pocket facing a pass rush while throwing a football? Probably about as "Athletic" as Bradshaw would look finishing a fast break.
Brah...
Posted on 2/17/13 at 9:53 am to Cincinnati Bowtie
Every now and then, usually about every twenty minutes or less, a question or comment comes up that allows people to express an opinion as though it were a hard and fast "fact." Comparing a qb to a basketball player as the greatest athlete is hard to do in my mind. The games and, more importantly, the times were different. Big draft numbers, no free agency, probably steroid stuff, and dictatorial control over players and coaches influence these assessments.
I am content to say that both were, and are, great from the point of view of accomplishments and their love of the state. Bradshaw was surrounded by talent on offense, and their defense was no slouch either. Having said that it is obvious that anyone could have stepped in and gone to the super bowl. Really! If I had been the qb, you think we would be talking about me right now. Bradshaw got a bad rap as a country bumpkin who couldn't learn a playbook; therefore, he was another stupid LA idiot. I tend to look at Bradshaw as crazy like a fox and laughing all the way to the bank.
How about we compare them to Arthur Ashe, Muhammad Ali, Bob Petit, or Mel Ott. Comparisons make good barroom arguments that only prove we are talking about great athletes no matter when the period of time that they played.
I am content to say that both were, and are, great from the point of view of accomplishments and their love of the state. Bradshaw was surrounded by talent on offense, and their defense was no slouch either. Having said that it is obvious that anyone could have stepped in and gone to the super bowl. Really! If I had been the qb, you think we would be talking about me right now. Bradshaw got a bad rap as a country bumpkin who couldn't learn a playbook; therefore, he was another stupid LA idiot. I tend to look at Bradshaw as crazy like a fox and laughing all the way to the bank.
How about we compare them to Arthur Ashe, Muhammad Ali, Bob Petit, or Mel Ott. Comparisons make good barroom arguments that only prove we are talking about great athletes no matter when the period of time that they played.
Posted on 2/17/13 at 10:31 am to JOHNN
Are u saying Montana didnt have any good wr's or any good receiving RB's.How about Marino?
Bradsaw played when u could clobber the QB u could pick him up and body slam him. U could treat them just like any other player and they were defenseless.
Since 1960 anyone would be hard pressed to find 10 QB's better than Bradshaw and 20 now thats insulting to the man.
Bradsaw played when u could clobber the QB u could pick him up and body slam him. U could treat them just like any other player and they were defenseless.
Since 1960 anyone would be hard pressed to find 10 QB's better than Bradshaw and 20 now thats insulting to the man.
Posted on 2/17/13 at 11:22 am to jcb236
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If I had been the qb, you think we would be talking about me right now
If we were comparing Bradshaw to you,then yes, Bradshaw is the greatest QB ever to step on a football field; however, I raised the bar a little higher by comparing TB to other NFL quarterbacks and not posters on The Rant.
Posted on 2/17/13 at 11:45 am to KC Tiger
But there are many QB's who would have won 4 super bowls on that Steeler's Team.
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