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Alluminum or steel frame for 1911???

Posted on 2/12/13 at 9:35 pm
Posted by POONHOUND
Member since Nov 2010
1505 posts
Posted on 2/12/13 at 9:35 pm
Obviously steel will take a much longer beating than alloy, my question is, how dependable are the new alloy frames. Anyone have any negative comments to say about them? Obviously they are lighter, so they will be easier to carry. All I have gathered is that if you want a 1911 to shoot a LOT, get steel, and vice versa for alluminum. Is this theory correct?
Guns in question are the kimber tactical custom 2 and the kimber custom tle2.
I like the looks of the tactical more, but undecided and thought I would ask around.
Thanks in advance.
Posted by chrisman17
New Orleans, LA
Member since Dec 2007
1008 posts
Posted on 2/12/13 at 9:38 pm to
You pretty much got the idea. I have both, but also had steel feed ramps installed in my alloy frames, to help with the pounding.

All steel will shoot slightly softer obviously.
Posted by LouisianaChessie
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since May 2010
2582 posts
Posted on 2/12/13 at 9:42 pm to
I shot a 1911 without a steel frame for the first time the other day and was very pleasantly surprised
Posted by POONHOUND
Member since Nov 2010
1505 posts
Posted on 2/12/13 at 10:00 pm to
I really want the alloy tactical one,but keep going back and
Forth.
May just get the tle 2 and upgrade the magwells.
This post was edited on 2/12/13 at 10:02 pm
Posted by bapple
Capital City
Member since Oct 2010
11872 posts
Posted on 2/12/13 at 10:03 pm to
quote:

Obviously they are lighter, so they will be easier to carry.


This is it. If you plan to carry it, snag an aluminum frame or a scandium frame from S&W. Actually the scandium frames are supposed to be a pretty amazing hybrid. Look up a little more info about them to see how rugged they are.

I think any 1911 should be able to handle a high round count with today's metal technology. I can personally say I've never seen a frame break on any gun.
Posted by POONHOUND
Member since Nov 2010
1505 posts
Posted on 2/12/13 at 10:04 pm to
Who installed them for you? How easy/hard of a process? Cost?
Thanks
Posted by JAB528
The Mexican Ocean
Member since Jun 2012
16870 posts
Posted on 2/12/13 at 10:05 pm to
quote:

bapple


:kige:
Posted by POONHOUND
Member since Nov 2010
1505 posts
Posted on 2/12/13 at 10:06 pm to
That's my thoughts as well. Just wanna make sure I'm not missing something and I know a lot of you guys are 1911 nuts, I have shot plenty, just not sure about a lot of the newer models and thier features.
Posted by chrisman17
New Orleans, LA
Member since Dec 2007
1008 posts
Posted on 2/12/13 at 10:21 pm to
quote:

Who installed them for you? How easy/hard of a process? Cost? Thanks


The frame needs to be milled so its not something that can be done on the kitchen counter. Any competent 1911 smith can install them.

Do you need them? Really depends how much shooting you plan on doing. My advice would be to go ahead and shoot it first and worry about the steel feed ramp if you ever start eroding frame on the alloy.

Coincidentally, I've owned the two kimbers you are considering. Take it for what it's worth but the only two kimbers I would ever consider owning again is a series 1 or a early model TLE circa 2003.
Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
35893 posts
Posted on 2/12/13 at 10:28 pm to
Get both.
Posted by POONHOUND
Member since Nov 2010
1505 posts
Posted on 2/12/13 at 10:45 pm to
Good idea
Posted by LouisianaChessie
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since May 2010
2582 posts
Posted on 2/13/13 at 2:15 am to
quote:

Coincidentally, I've owned the two kimbers you are considering. Take it for what it's worth but the only two kimbers I would ever consider owning again is a series 1 or a early model TLE circa 2003.


Unreal. I've always kinda thought the kimbers were more about the show but I just don't have enough experience with them. I'd be interested as to why you feel this way.
This post was edited on 2/13/13 at 2:16 am
Posted by chrisman17
New Orleans, LA
Member since Dec 2007
1008 posts
Posted on 2/13/13 at 7:27 am to
quote:

Unreal. I've always kinda thought the kimbers were more about the show but I just don't have enough experience with them. I'd be interested as to why you feel this way.


I've owned 4 in the past 15 years or so. A series 1 which was one of the best 1911s for the price I have ever owned. A TLE/RL which was the next best(the only issue with it was a grip bushing that stripped from the frame first time out, kimber fixed it), a Pro TLE II which went back to kimber two times both on my time b/c barrel wasn't properly timed which caused the slide to not come into battery every time, and a Pro Tactical which had an external extractor(kimber produced them very briefly). That gun couldn't run a mag of anything with out FTF or FTE. Which is the reason they dropped external extractors pretty quickly.

It just seems like kimber is more about the number of diffferent models they can create rather then making two or three models that just run.
Posted by POONHOUND
Member since Nov 2010
1505 posts
Posted on 2/13/13 at 10:31 am to
I believe I am going to go with the tactical custom 2 hd. It has the features I want and it's steel.
Posted by TigerOnThe Hill
Springhill, LA
Member since Sep 2008
6809 posts
Posted on 2/13/13 at 12:31 pm to
quote:

Obviously they are lighter, so they will be easier to carry. All I have gathered is that if you want a 1911 to shoot a LOT, get steel, and vice versa for alluminum. Is this theory correct?


I think you've got a good handle on the situation!
I'm really hoping that after Ruger gets their 1911 Commander up and running, they'll next make an alloy version. No rumours to that effect, just me hoping they do it.
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