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Wally Sparks
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Listening to secular media on this will be next to worthless.


A great source to use is Rocco Palmo's blog Whispers in the Loggia. Very informative with this kind of info.






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Shortly after Benedict XVI announced his resignation as Roman pontiff, effective 28 February, the following clarification on the future status of the first Pope to retire in six centuries was issued by the lead Vatican spokesman, Jesuit Fr Federico Lombardi:

Pope Benedict XVI has given his resignation freely, in accordance with Canon 332 §2 of the Code of Canon Law.
Pope Benedict XVI will not take part in the Conclave for the election of his successor.

Pope Benedict XVI will move to the Papal residence in Castel Gandolfo when his resignation shall become effective.
When renovation work on the monastery of cloistered nuns inside the Vatican is complete, the Holy Father will move there for a period of prayer and reflection.

As previously noted, canon law makes no provision whatsoever for the protocols and prerogatives of a retired Pope, so Benedict's preferences for his post-papacy will be setting an epochal precedent, both for the office and the life of the church it oversees.






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Sportspickle did an analysis of potential candidates from the world of sports:

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Just reading his resume, he seems brilliant




His downside is that a faction of bishops dislike him. Oh, and Canada is in a worse state than the US regarding Catholicism.


Oh, and:



And I'm not sure what to make of this...




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Literally, a joke.


The best joke in there was Dawkins at 666:1






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TN Bhoy
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Hmm....


"Holy Cow! Tomorrow I'll resign"







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If it is not PETER TURKSON then whoever else that does not have PETER in their given or Papal name that is chosen, won't last long.

Prophecy believing or not the devil likes to imitate and mock, so this is why the Peter name is prophecized.

Read the book AA-1025.

When I read it, it looked like this...



I have no idea if this one is new...








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I was wondering if Benedict did anything to assist the SSPX. Most catholics you speak to, think confession is absolution built into the Mass and confession is not needed.





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I was wondering if Benedict did anything to assist the SSPX. Most catholics you speak to, think confession is absolution built into the Mass and confession is not needed.


Apparently a resolution between the Vatican and the SSPX was imminent but then got scuttled when there was a media leak (I think).






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If it is not PETER TURKSON then whoever else that does not have PETER in their given or Papal name that is chosen, won't last long.

Prophecy believing or not the devil likes to imitate and mock, so this is why the Peter name is prophecized.




I give 0 credence to the prophecy of "St. Malachy," mostly because it was "found" 300+ years after his death. Actually, other than Quito and La Salette, I give very little credence to any "Catholic" prophecy.



And yes, HH did try to help the SSPX, notably lifting the excommunications on their 4 bishops. Unfortunately, they are not yet in "full communion" and, depending on the next pope, might not be very willing to dialogue.


Met. Hilarion (Russian Orthodox) put out a very nice statement today. I think that they would appreciate a very conservative pope.:

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Even before his ascension to the See of Rome, Cardinal Ratzinger declared war on ‘the dictatorship of relativism’ so typical for the Western society today. It immediately made him unpopular in the eyes of secular politicians and journalists. Pope Benedict XVI is not a media star. He is a man of the Church. In the mass media, he is continuously criticized for traditionalism and conservatism, but precisely these merits of his are of credit for millions of Christians, both Catholic and non-Catholic, those who seek to preserve traditional Christian spiritual and moral values.

It remains only to hope that his successor will continue walking along the same path and that Orthodox-Catholic relations will continue developing progressively for the common good of the whole Christendom.


LINK


Personally, I think it would be absolutely hilarious to see one of the Eastern Catholics named pope. Heads would literally explode throughout the world.



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Lasalette I recall reading and it sounded legit. Akita? What about Fatima? Lourdes? St. Malachy has been approved I believe. I think Padre Pio spoke of him.





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Lasalette I recall reading and it sounded legit. Akita? What about Fatima? Lourdes? St. Malachy has been approved I believe. I think Padre Pio spoke of him.





The thing with Catholic prophecy/private revelation is that it's normally up to the individual whether they believe it or not. Even though something like Lourdes or Fatima has been deemed "worthy of belief" it is completely possible for someone to be a good Catholic and not believe that Mary appeared at either. I personally believe that she did, but the problem with prophecy for me is that we can't judge it until after the events. I believe in the prophecies at Quito and La Salette because I can read the prophecies and match them exactly to real events. I can do that for the first two secrets of Fatima, but I can't for the 3rd (if we've even heard the real one).

Of course, there are certain "revelations" that have been explicitly condemned by the local bishop (Medj, Bayside), bishops' conference (Medj), and the Pope.

And then there are things like the "St. Malachy prophecy." They haven't been deemed "worthy of belief" or condemned. It's up to you.


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Here's Fr. Longenecker's breakdown of Malachy

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The problems are manifold. First of all, the prognosticators behave like all conspiracy theorists and prophecy lovers: Begin with the theory or prophecy and make the facts fit.

The second problem is something called evidence. Although St Malachy was a historic figure from the twelfth century there is no mention of his prophecies before 1590, and surprise! surprise! the prophetic mottos for the popes are quite accurate for the period between 1150 up to the late 1500s. Then they become obscure and inaccurate. Kind of fishy. Maybe like the whole thing was written about 1590 or so when the prophecies were purportedly discovered. And then there is the problem that Malachy’s original document is not extant. It sort of disappeared–like those Mormon golden tablets written in ancient Egyptian.



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Peter from Ghana freaky.

Kind of weird that he last major hub for black majick ,until the last 50 years ,was Africa.

I guess we better get ready...






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After perusing this thread I'd rather be Harold Camping than have to predict the next Pope.

I can see Heaven now:

Jesus: So dad, who do you think it's gonna be?
God: Look son, even omniscience has its limits...What about you Lucy?
Lucifer: frick me, I don't know. They're your people...well, most of them are...ok, a few of them are.
Protestant onlookers: Just look at 'em down there.
Catholic onlookers:
Peter: I told you it was a bad idea, but noooooooo...
Lucifer: As long as condoms stay in my territory I wouldn't worry if I were you guys.
God: That's true. You may be an evil son-of-a-bitch but you're an optimist.
God & Lucifer:






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Ive read some interesting discussions on the 3rd Secret being about the clergy/ pope being under the devils control and the end times. Maybe the last pope being the devil himself? I do believe the church has withheld fully releasing the final secret because of the turmoil it would stir up inside the church.

I tend to believe the first 2 secrets also because as you've mentioned you can actually connect them with historical events during the 20th century. I don't buy Cardinal Bertone's argument about the 3rd secret being fully released by the church though.







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Throughout Catholicism worldwide, America is viewed as morally bankrupt......and I agree with the assessment. The fact that a majority of American Catholics supported Barack Hussein Obama for President does not help. American Catholicsm has gone Ala Carte......with many American Catholic institutions and leaders Catholic in name only. Ever hear of an American Catholic named Douglas W. Kmiec? IMO....a real Judas. But there are many others......Father [gag] Michael Pfleger comes to mind. Would you believe Pfleger got an award from his bishop?

I suspect the liberal progressives will do all they can to get their guy in the Papacy. Stay tuned.



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I suspect the liberal progressives will do all they can to get their guy in the Papacy. Stay tuned.


That's going to be a little difficult considering every voting cardinal in this conclave has been appointed by either of the previous two conservative popes.






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I suspect the liberal progressives will do all they can to get their guy in the Papacy. Stay tuned.


Yea, these guys ain't electing no liberal pope bro. Although, I think they should be mindful of over 40% of Catholics being Latino. For instance, Brazil was 90% Catholic in the 60-70s and is now they hang ~60%. Protestants have made huge inroads in Latin America. The election of a Latin American pope would be huge deal to them.






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