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joshnorris14
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Regardless of whether you believe in the legitimacy of IP or not

Do you think technology will make it more and more irrelevant? What impact do you think that will have on society.


WikiTiger
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re: Regardless of whether you believe in the legitimacy of IP or not
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Do you think technology will make it more and more irrelevant?


Yes. It's already happening and will only progress quicker and quicker.

I subscribe to the information wants to be free line of thinking. As the costs to reproduce and distribute information continue to get lower and lower, expect a much greater free flow of it.

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What impact do you think that will have on society.


Greater knowledge base
Greater artistic output
Faster progress
More transparent governments
Greater liberty


joshnorris14
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re: Regardless of whether you believe in the legitimacy of IP or not
Now I want to see someone chime in from the other side of the fence.

Anyone...
Anyone...
Bueller...


bunky
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re: Regardless of whether you believe in the legitimacy of IP or not
Higher technology can just as easily result in smaller liberty...

RFID
Universal wireless networks
Fiber-optic imaging


etc, etc...
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90proofprofessional
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re: Regardless of whether you believe in the legitimacy of IP or not
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other side of the fence

counter-point on the effects it may have: things that are expensive to invent but nearly costless to reproduce may never come into existence to begin with, as there is little incentive to make the huge investment.


GumboPot
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re: Regardless of whether you believe in the legitimacy of IP or not
A little off topic, but do you think that the internet will ever get to the point, that is so physically diversified, that we will never have to worry about corporate control of bandwidth or a government "internet kill switch"? (I don't even know if I'm asking the question properly. )


WikiTiger
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re: Regardless of whether you believe in the legitimacy of IP or not
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A little off topic, but do you think that the internet will ever get to the point, that is so physically diversified, that we will never have to worry about corporate control of bandwidth or a government "internet kill switch"? (I don't even know if I'm asking the question properly. )


Yes. Actually, various solutions are being worked on by various groups as we speak.

As I understand them, the solutions tend to focus on mesh networks that allow normal, ubiquitous devices to essentially act as relays for network traffic.



Projectpat
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re: Regardless of whether you believe in the legitimacy of IP or not
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Do you think technology will make it more and more irrelevant?


Yes.

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What impact do you think that will have on society.


Probably a slight strengthening of the law. People realize it won't protect them enough though and take more and more steps to safeguard their secrets that give them some kind of competitive advantage.


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WikiTiger
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re: Regardless of whether you believe in the legitimacy of IP or not
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things that are expensive to invent but nearly costless to reproduce may never come into existence to begin with, as there is little incentive to make the huge investment.



It's a valid concern, but I honestly don't believe it will be that big of a deal.

If anything, the internet has demonstrated that people love to create and share. From wikipedia, to open source software, to fan fiction, etc. The desire to provide value to others is stronger than the desire for personal profit as long as basic needs are met, believe it or not.

Check out this video on drive and motivation



Not only that, but the free flow of information will allow global collaboration that wasn't possible before. And that will significantly bring costs down.


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GumboPot
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re: Regardless of whether you believe in the legitimacy of IP or not
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As I understand them, the solutions tend to focus on mesh networks that allow normal, ubiquitous devices to essentially act as relays for network traffic.


Hmmm...I can't quite visualize that but I'll take your word for it.


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uway
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re: Regardless of whether you believe in the legitimacy of IP or not
Should all forms of property be abolished?


joshnorris14
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re: Regardless of whether you believe in the legitimacy of IP or not
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Should all forms of property be abolished?


Please leave irrelevant subjects out of this thread.


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Projectpat
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re: Regardless of whether you believe in the legitimacy of IP or not
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Should all forms of property be abolished?


Image: http://theinfosphere.org/images/thumb/2/27/Free_Waterfall,_Jr.jpg/225px-Free_Waterfall,_Jr.jpg


You can't own property man!


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NC_Tigah
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re: Regardless of whether you believe in the legitimacy of IP or not
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Do you think technology will make it more and more irrelevant?
Irrelevant?
Nope.

At least let's hope not.
Lest you and I have to take the time to develop our own intellectual property rather than having the opportunity to partake of others' efforts.


joshnorris14
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re: Regardless of whether you believe in the legitimacy of IP or not
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Lest you and I have to take the time to develop our own intellectual property rather than having the opportunity to partake of others' efforts.


I love partaking of the effort of others. I use as much free open sourced software as I possibly can, and I download as many torrents of movies and tv shows as I possibly can.


WizardSleeve
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re: Regardless of whether you believe in the legitimacy of IP or not
Sooo if I work for years and years and figure out what the magic bullet cure for cancer is, I don't own it?

How are you arguing that IP isn't legit personal property? A cornerstone of libertarianism is that we own our labor, thus the fruits of our labor as well.


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NC_Tigah
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re: Regardless of whether you believe in the legitimacy of IP or not
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I love partaking of the effort of others
If their intellectual property was irrelevant, it would be a different and far more restrictive world.

I enjoy fast cars. I drive fast cars fast. That does not make speed limits irrelevant.


joshnorris14
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re: Regardless of whether you believe in the legitimacy of IP or not
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If their intellectual property was irrelevant, it would be a different and far more restrictive world.


Well I don't agree in the existence of intellectual property. So I guess I should say, I believe the artificial construct of intellectual property will soon become irrelevant (As is already happening).


90proofprofessional
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re: Regardless of whether you believe in the legitimacy of IP or not
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I don't agree in the existence of intellectual property

can i get an explanation for why this type of property is invalid IYV? no video links pls


WizardSleeve
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re: Regardless of whether you believe in the legitimacy of IP or not
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Well I don't agree in the existence of intellectual property.


You sound like a career student.

In the real world people develop new ideas and research that can have a lot of value. They do this with their own labor. Are you saying people dont own their labor and the information they may create?

If IP doesn't exist, why would anyone want to develop a cure for cancer or new biofuels technology or (insert something we want but don't have here)???


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