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Black ex-coaches say NFL's Rooney Rule is broken
Posted on 1/31/13 at 8:27 pm
Posted on 1/31/13 at 8:27 pm
Rooney Rule Broken
NEW ORLEANS -- Three black former NFL head coaches say the league needs to rethink its Rooney Rule for promoting minority hiring after 15 top vacancies -- eight head coaching jobs and seven general manager positions -- were all filled by white candidates since the regular season ended a month ago.
"I know the concept is good and something we need to do," said Tony Dungy, who was with the Indianapolis Colts during the 2006 season when he became the first black coach to win a Super Bowl. "Obviously, it's not working the way it should."
The Rooney Rule, implemented in 2003, was named for Pittsburgh Steelers chairman Dan Rooney, who steadfastly pushed the league to require every team to interview at least one minority candidate every time there is a coaching or general manager opening.
Before the rule went into effect, the NFL had had only six minority head coaches in more than 80 years. Since it has been in place, 12 have been hired.
But none were hired this year to replace the two black coaches who were fired -- Romeo Crennel in Kansas City and Lovie Smith in Chicago -- and the one fired black GM, Rod Graves in Arizona.
Herm Edwards, former coach of the New York Jets and Kansas City Chiefs and now an ESPN analyst, has called for not only revising the rule but perhaps even changing its name.
"When you use the Rooney Rule and not correctly, you put a little bit of a bad mark on Mr. Rooney's name, and that is not good," Edwards said Wednesday. "If it keeps going this way, we might need to take his name off the rule. It is not being used in the right manner that Mr. Rooney meant it to be."
Robert Gulliver, the NFL's executive vice president of human resources, said that the hiring results were "disappointing" and that he expects to make revisions in the rule.
The Fritz Pollard Alliance, a group of minority coaches and front-office, scouting and game-day NFL officials, wants the Rooney Rule expanded to apply to coordinators, assistant head coaches and club president positions.
NEW ORLEANS -- Three black former NFL head coaches say the league needs to rethink its Rooney Rule for promoting minority hiring after 15 top vacancies -- eight head coaching jobs and seven general manager positions -- were all filled by white candidates since the regular season ended a month ago.
"I know the concept is good and something we need to do," said Tony Dungy, who was with the Indianapolis Colts during the 2006 season when he became the first black coach to win a Super Bowl. "Obviously, it's not working the way it should."
The Rooney Rule, implemented in 2003, was named for Pittsburgh Steelers chairman Dan Rooney, who steadfastly pushed the league to require every team to interview at least one minority candidate every time there is a coaching or general manager opening.
Before the rule went into effect, the NFL had had only six minority head coaches in more than 80 years. Since it has been in place, 12 have been hired.
But none were hired this year to replace the two black coaches who were fired -- Romeo Crennel in Kansas City and Lovie Smith in Chicago -- and the one fired black GM, Rod Graves in Arizona.
Herm Edwards, former coach of the New York Jets and Kansas City Chiefs and now an ESPN analyst, has called for not only revising the rule but perhaps even changing its name.
"When you use the Rooney Rule and not correctly, you put a little bit of a bad mark on Mr. Rooney's name, and that is not good," Edwards said Wednesday. "If it keeps going this way, we might need to take his name off the rule. It is not being used in the right manner that Mr. Rooney meant it to be."
Robert Gulliver, the NFL's executive vice president of human resources, said that the hiring results were "disappointing" and that he expects to make revisions in the rule.
The Fritz Pollard Alliance, a group of minority coaches and front-office, scouting and game-day NFL officials, wants the Rooney Rule expanded to apply to coordinators, assistant head coaches and club president positions.
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Posted on 1/31/13 at 8:28 pm to kywildcatfanone
frick.The.Rooney.Rule
Posted on 1/31/13 at 8:29 pm to kywildcatfanone
It's 1 freaking offseason and 'the rule is broken?' Frick off
As Michael Scott said, "Barack is president!"
As Michael Scott said, "Barack is president!"
Posted on 1/31/13 at 8:31 pm to REG861
Black people will NEVER be happy
Fact
Fact
Posted on 1/31/13 at 8:31 pm to kywildcatfanone
I posted this in a thread a couple weeks ago about this topic, but nonetheless
Roughly 12% of the population is Black
There are three black coaches out of 32 HC postions making it roughly 9%. With Lovie this past year there were 4 making it 12.5%...consistent with the population break down. Now I understand sports are different with more black people having access to the league in general, but from a standpoint of consistently lining up with the nations demographics it makes sense there are significantly less black coaches.
eta. 7 black coaches in 2011 making 21%
2013 is just regression toward the mean
Roughly 12% of the population is Black
There are three black coaches out of 32 HC postions making it roughly 9%. With Lovie this past year there were 4 making it 12.5%...consistent with the population break down. Now I understand sports are different with more black people having access to the league in general, but from a standpoint of consistently lining up with the nations demographics it makes sense there are significantly less black coaches.
eta. 7 black coaches in 2011 making 21%
2013 is just regression toward the mean
This post was edited on 1/31/13 at 8:32 pm
Posted on 1/31/13 at 8:32 pm to kywildcatfanone
quote:
the league needs to rethink its Rooney Rule for promoting minority hiring after 15 top vacancies
white people need jobs too.
Posted on 1/31/13 at 8:32 pm to REG861
I know there have been a couple of threads on this recently, but this is a new article posted tonight.
I find it funny that Dungy would say "the concept is good". I think it's offensive to potential black coaches, as it makes them pawns that are required to be interviewed.
Does anyone not think that NFL owners will not hire the best candidate for their head coaching job regardless of color? Of course not.
I find it funny that Dungy would say "the concept is good". I think it's offensive to potential black coaches, as it makes them pawns that are required to be interviewed.
Does anyone not think that NFL owners will not hire the best candidate for their head coaching job regardless of color? Of course not.
Posted on 1/31/13 at 8:32 pm to Marciano1
quote:
frick.The.Rooney.Rule
:kige:
Posted on 1/31/13 at 8:36 pm to Marciano1
quote:
Roughly 12% of the population is Black
I know this is true but it sure as hell don't seem like it. Your post was very good.
Posted on 1/31/13 at 8:38 pm to kywildcatfanone
The thing I don't understand is in today's football winning is EVERYTHING. If the coach that gives a team the best chance to win is black then the team will fricking hire him.
Posted on 1/31/13 at 8:39 pm to kywildcatfanone
Can we please get the Rooney Rule for white running backs and white cornerbacks?
Posted on 1/31/13 at 8:40 pm to Marciano1
quote:
Black people will NEVER be happy
Fact
Posted on 1/31/13 at 8:40 pm to kywildcatfanone
quote:
require every team to interview at least one minority candidate every time there is a coaching or general manager opening
does it count if they interview Jeremy Lin?
Posted on 1/31/13 at 8:41 pm to kywildcatfanone
GIVE ME A frickING BREAK
key word here. if they didn't suck, then they would still be coaching. frick them trying to act like they deserve to be put into a position that they don't qualify for
quote:
ex-coaches
key word here. if they didn't suck, then they would still be coaching. frick them trying to act like they deserve to be put into a position that they don't qualify for
Posted on 1/31/13 at 8:41 pm to Choupique19
quote:
Can we please get the Rooney Rule for white running backs and white cornerbacks?
no cause that would be racist
Posted on 1/31/13 at 8:44 pm to REG861
Tony Dungy is one if those people Id like to choke slam.
Posted on 1/31/13 at 8:47 pm to Marciano1
quote:
Black people will NEVER be happy
Fact
Southern white boys are easily irritated by black people.
Fact.
Posted on 1/31/13 at 8:52 pm to VOR
quote:black people nationwide cry 24/7 about the white man
Southern white boys are easily irritated by black people.
Another fact
I bet if there was a whitepeoplemeet.com there would be a lawsuit filed by Rev Al and Uncle Jesse
Posted on 1/31/13 at 8:54 pm to VOR
quote:
Southern white boys are easily irritated by black people.
black people whining about stupid shite and creating racism arguments that don't exist
this is just such a stupid argument by these coaches
Posted on 1/31/13 at 8:55 pm to ReauxlTide222
quote:
The thing I don't understand is in today's football winning is EVERYTHING. If the coach that gives a team the best chance to win is black then the team will fricking hire him.
The Dolphins passed on Mike Tomlin because he was "too hiphop"
So, tthere goes that theory lol.
Also, Gregg Williams already has a job lined up but not Lovie Smith?
It blows my mind that folks won't acknowledge the obvious issue.
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