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Question re pass coverage
Posted by TigerJeff on 1/31/13 at 8:06 am00
I watch a lot of college and pro football, and it's a common thing you hear broadcasters say -- "there's no way a safety can cover ____" (usually an athletic tight end); or "there's no way a linebacker can cover _____." Question: are cornerbacks the only defensive players athletic/fast enough to cover backs and tight ends? I mean, at some point, linebackers, and certainly safeties, are going to have to cover backs and tight ends. To this day I still don't understand this comment.
re: Question re pass coveragePosted by TigerintheNO on 1/31/13 at 8:09 am to TigerJeff
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"there's no way a safety can cover ____" (usually an athletic tight end); or "there's no way a linebacker can cover _____."
Most linebackers & safetys aren't going to be able to cover Graham & Gronk.
re: Question re pass coveragePosted by TigerJeff on 1/31/13 at 8:12 am to TigerintheNO
then .... who is? It's a pointless comment, guess I'm saying. Would a cornerback be able to cover them? Then why not play 7 cornerbacks on defense? I just fundamentally don't understand the point.
re: Question re pass coveragePosted by Billy Mays on 1/31/13 at 8:16 am to TigerJeff
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Would a cornerback be able to cover them?
Too small, they can just use their body to more effectively shield them
re: Question re pass coveragePosted by VermilionTiger on 1/31/13 at 8:18 am to TigerJeff
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Then why not play 7 cornerbacks on defense? I just fundamentally don't understand the point.
Because 300 yards rushing isn't good
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then .... who is? It's a pointless comment, guess I'm saying. Would a cornerback be able to cover them? Then why not play 7 cornerbacks on defense? I just fundamentally don't understand the point.
Every defensive alignment and personnel group has weaknesses. You have to trade off speed for size, strength for quickness, etc. all the time. The key is finding the right balance. You can't just say put all your best cover guys on the field every play so the other team can't pass or put all your best run stoppers on the field every play so the other team can't run. You pick the best balance and alignment based on situations and then it's up to the offense to try and exploit your inevitable weaknesses.
Who is the best defensive player of all time? Lawrence Taylor? If you put 11 Lawrence Taylors on the field would that be a great defense?
Or maybe the best defensive back? Rod Woodson, Deion Sanders, Ronnie Lott? If you put 11 Rod Woodson's on the field would that be a great defense?
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re: Question re pass coveragePosted by VermilionTiger on 1/31/13 at 9:11 am to HeadCoach
Yeah really.. There is always a whole in the defense no matter what
Cover 2? Opens up the screen game and TE over the top
Man coverage? Flats may be open
Cover 2? Opens up the screen game and TE over the top
Man coverage? Flats may be open
re: Question re pass coveragePosted by EarthwormJim on 1/31/13 at 9:13 am to TigerJeff
All they are saying is the "athletic tight end" creates match up problems. The bigger safeties/linebackers usually aren't fast enough to cover him, and cornerbacks aren't big enough.
re: Question re pass coveragePosted by TigerJeff on 1/31/13 at 3:53 pm to EarthwormJim
Right. Hence my point. It's pointless commentary. If a safety covering the athletic tight end is a bad match-up ... if a linebacker covering the athletic tight end is a bad match up ... if a cornerback isn't big enough to cover the athletic tight end ... then, I guess that means NO ONE can cover the athletic tight end.
BTW, "Head Coach" can KMA
BTW, "Head Coach" can KMA
re: Question re pass coveragePosted by SlowFlowPro on 1/31/13 at 3:54 pm to TigerintheNO
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Most linebackers & safetys aren't going to be able to cover Graham & Gronk.
IF they have to worry about the run
if it's straight up passing, a bunch can cover them about as well as you possibly can cover a receiver in today's NFL
I agree 100% with this comment. I've been hearing it since the 90's. What they realy mean is "that particular player doesn't macth up well with that other player", but the way they say it sounds like no safety or LB can ever hope to cover a TE or RB.
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