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re: Explain to me what's special about RevolversPosted by Hammertime on 1/30/13 at 7:07 pm to bapple
quote:It's a Glock, so 14x longer than a 1911
Do you know how many times you can repeatedly shoot these hot rounds out of it before it starts to take a beating?
re: Explain to me what's special about RevolversPosted by tigerzballzdeep on 1/30/13 at 7:09 pm to Tom288
I pull the trigger and it fricking goes BANG. I dont keep anything but revolvers in my bedroom nightstand
re: Explain to me what's special about RevolversPosted by bapple on 1/30/13 at 7:15 pm to Hammertime
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It's a Glock, so 14x longer than a 1911
I'm not talking about a 1911's reliability here. I'm referring to the durability of a revolver.
A Glock shooting 10mm repeatedly will be very different after thousands of rounds when compared to a Glock shooting 9mm over thousands of rounds.
It has nothing to do with Glock but the nature of a higher pressure cartridge. The same can be said for 40 S&W and 357 Sig. All of these rounds increase the slide velocity compared to lower pressure cartridges like 9mm and 45 ACP.
If you're gonna talk about Glock, I would say comparing a Kimber Eclipse 10mm vs a Glock 20 will prove that the 1911's metal frame can probably take more of a beating after taming the high pressure cartridge for so long.
Again, this discussion is not about 1911s. It is about the effectiveness of revolvers at shooting high pressure rounds. They will always be more durable than semi autos.
Please try to avoid using red herrings in this discussion.
re: Explain to me what's special about RevolversPosted by Ole Geauxt on 1/30/13 at 7:24 pm to Tom288
quote:
what's special about Revolvers
Everything...
btw, if you buy one in La., i'll get out my last boat that still floats and deliver your purchase to you.. I can put in at Natchez in Missa hippy river, head south and turn left when i hit open water,,, no problem..
re: Explain to me what's special about RevolversPosted by El Josey Wales on 1/30/13 at 8:02 pm to Ole Geauxt
re: Explain to me what's special about RevolversPosted by JAB528 on 1/30/13 at 8:05 pm to Ole Geauxt
Lots of positives about revolvers, but the most important is reliability. You can load a wheel gun, put it on a shelf in your shop and forget about it. 20 years later you can pick it up and it will go bang. Wheel guns just feel "right" to some people. My pow pow could shoot a wheel gun like nobody's business, but he wasn't real good with a pistol. The trigger pull is a funny subject. Yeah, you can fire it single action, but you never should in a self defense situation. If you shoot one enough you will never want to fire one single action. The double action trigger pull of a revolver is an art that is easily mastered.
I also forgot about one small detail about revolvers.
Since the revolver action doesn't rely on recoil, it can operate with low powered cartridges of the same case.
45 LC - 45 ACP - .410 Shotshell
38 Special - 357 Magnum
44 Special - 44 Magnum
22 short - 22 long rifle - 22 magnum
Since the revolver action doesn't rely on recoil, it can operate with low powered cartridges of the same case.
45 LC - 45 ACP - .410 Shotshell
38 Special - 357 Magnum
44 Special - 44 Magnum
22 short - 22 long rifle - 22 magnum
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re: Explain to me what's special about RevolversPosted by DownshiftAndFloorIt on 1/30/13 at 10:01 pm to JAB528
I've been outside all evening. Why do you fricks talk wheel guns when I'm busy splitting firewood?
Good things about a revolvers for defense: reliability and firepower. They are leagues above semis in both categories. Sure, you can get a huge arse glock in 10mm that will get you close to .357 mag performance, but you're not going to get it from a compact gun with a 4" barrel.
A 125gr hollow point out of a 4" .357mag revolver is the undisputed king of ending social encounters with one hit.
General advantages of a revolver: ability to shoot big shite accurately and reliably.
You're not going to see a .454 casull semi anywhere.
Good things about a revolvers for defense: reliability and firepower. They are leagues above semis in both categories. Sure, you can get a huge arse glock in 10mm that will get you close to .357 mag performance, but you're not going to get it from a compact gun with a 4" barrel.
A 125gr hollow point out of a 4" .357mag revolver is the undisputed king of ending social encounters with one hit.
General advantages of a revolver: ability to shoot big shite accurately and reliably.
You're not going to see a .454 casull semi anywhere.
re: Explain to me what's special about RevolversPosted by Ace Midnight on 1/30/13 at 10:08 pm to Tom288
quote:
But I've always wondered why anyone would carry one over a semi. Unless you're cocking each time you have that extra pressure on the trigger pull, a low capacity, slow reloading without a speed loader, and this is just personal preference but I've never really liked the fit.
You have a fixed barrel with a revolver, combine that with adjustable sights, and you can have a very, very accurate platform. Personally, I think revolver makers focus more on the dynamic between trigger, hammer and lockup because of the timing issue and as a result there is a more dynamic, synergistic feel to the action - you can get to "know" a particular revolver, fairly quickly, whereas that learning curve is steeper with most automatics.
Don't get me wrong - there are many, many fine semi-automatics (the old girls M1911 and Browning Hi-Power variants seem to be over-represented in the population), but the higher end revolvers just seem nicer, smoother and have more distinct and lovable personalities, relative to semis which are more generic. Maybe it's an age thing, but maybe there is something to it.
re: Explain to me what's special about RevolversPosted by Tigah in the ATL on 1/30/13 at 10:23 pm to Tom288
Reliability of revolver is a myth. DA revolvers have more parts than an autoloader.
re: Explain to me what's special about RevolversPosted by JAB528 on 1/30/13 at 10:25 pm to Tigah in the ATL
more semis fail than revolvers of any kind. FACT
re: Explain to me what's special about RevolversPosted by DownshiftAndFloorIt on 1/30/13 at 10:28 pm to Tigah in the ATL
You serious Clark?
re: Explain to me what's special about RevolversPosted by JAB528 on 1/30/13 at 10:31 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
I sure hope he's not.
re: Explain to me what's special about RevolversPosted by RBWilliams8 on 1/30/13 at 10:58 pm to Tigah in the ATL
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Reliability of revolver is a myth. DA revolvers have more parts than an autoloader.
Having more or less parts isnt the issue.
One has to load a bullet into the chamber and has more of a chance of jamming than a wheel gun that already has one ready to go and just turns and hammers.
The primary issue with reliability is getting the next bullet into the chamber. Not the gun failing to make the bullet go off.
This post was edited on 1/30 at 10:59 pm
re: Explain to me what's special about RevolversPosted by DownshiftAndFloorIt on 1/30/13 at 11:34 pm to RBWilliams8
It's got to light it off, extract it, eject it, and chamber the next one. Lots of things to go wrong there. You're relying on the ammo
With the wheel gun, you're relying on some stainless linkage and springs.
One will work more often than the other.
With the wheel gun, you're relying on some stainless linkage and springs.
One will work more often than the other.
re: Explain to me what's special about RevolversPosted by RBWilliams8 on 1/31/13 at 12:02 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
Exactly
re: Explain to me what's special about RevolversPosted by bapple on 1/31/13 at 1:05 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
quote:
DownshiftAndFloorIt
Boom!
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