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re: UFC 156 - Frankie Edgar vs. Jose Aldo for the FW Belt --------------- (2/2/13)

Posted on 2/1/13 at 5:22 pm to
Posted by Shoulderchoke
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Posted on 2/1/13 at 5:22 pm to
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My prediction: The Aldo-Edgar fight will be boring and go to a decision. I just watched a previous fight for each fighter on Fuel. Both fights were boring. Neither guy appeared (in those fights) to have good KO power or submission skills.



Posted by UFownstSECsince1950
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 2/1/13 at 5:37 pm to

quote:

My prediction: The Aldo-Edgar fight will be boring and go to a decision. I just watched a previous fight for each fighter on Fuel. Both fights were boring. Neither guy appeared (in those fights) to have good KO power or submission skills.




Which fights are you talking about?

Weigh-ins coming up in 30 minutes. Jose looked much bigger than Frankie during the press conference yesterday.....
Posted by bubbz
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Posted on 2/1/13 at 6:02 pm to
Man Fuel is tough to watch in non HD
Posted by Shoulderchoke
Swamps of Lafourche
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Posted on 2/1/13 at 6:25 pm to
Overeem still huge, not as cut
Posted by UFownstSECsince1950
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 2/1/13 at 6:44 pm to




Posted by USMC Gators
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 2/1/13 at 7:23 pm to
Aldo, 48-47
Evans, 30-27
Overeem, 2nd rd tko
Fitch, 30-27
McCall, 29-28

Edit: I hope Edgar and Nog win though.

Edit 2: Will Aldo move up to lw if he wins?

Edit 3: Silva always reminds me of the Easter Island statues.
This post was edited on 2/1/13 at 7:26 pm
Posted by Good Times
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Posted on 2/1/13 at 8:08 pm to
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Edit 3: Silva always reminds me of the Easter Island statues.



Nailed it.
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
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Posted on 2/1/13 at 8:49 pm to
Hopefully after Fitch destroys Maia he gets a rematch against Hendrick
Posted by ScrapPack
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 2/1/13 at 8:57 pm to
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Hopefully after Fitch destroys Maia he gets a rematch against Hendrick


Why? So Johnny can knock his lay and pray arse out again.
Posted by UFownstSECsince1950
Member since Dec 2009
32600 posts
Posted on 2/1/13 at 8:59 pm to




This post was edited on 2/1/13 at 9:01 pm
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
18981 posts
Posted on 2/1/13 at 9:03 pm to
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Why? So Johnny can knock his lay and pray arse out again.

He won't land another hail mary punch. Heck it wouldn't surprise me if he didn't land any punches. It wouldn't be the first time Fitch has done that to someone.
Posted by ScrapPack
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 2/1/13 at 9:10 pm to
Fitch isn't going to be able to just lay in Maia's guard or he is going to get subbed.
Posted by tbonebrah
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 2/1/13 at 9:19 pm to
@ Joe

Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
18981 posts
Posted on 2/1/13 at 9:45 pm to
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Fitch isn't going to be able to just lay in Maia's guard or he is going to get subbed.


Fitch has arguable the best sub defense ever. I think he'll be more than fine laying on Maia and pounding him.
Posted by Shoulderchoke
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Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 2/1/13 at 10:13 pm to
More than fine? Lol

He may not get sub'd but he'll be working his arse off not to.

This isn't fricking Diego Sanchez or Erik Silva he's fighting.
Maia is not just one of the top BJJ fighters in MMA, he's one of the top BJJ players in the world at any weight.
Posted by PrimeTime Money
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 2/1/13 at 10:50 pm to
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More than fine? Lol He may not get sub'd but he'll be working his arse off not to. This isn't fricking Diego Sanchez or Erik Silva he's fighting. Maia is not just one of the top BJJ fighters in MMA, he's one of the top BJJ players in the world at any weight.
Maia had a submission win in his last fight... but before that he hadn't submitted anybody in nearly 4 years. Before his last fight, his last submission win was in February of 2009 at UFC 95 against Chael Sonnen.

That's 9 fights.

Demian Maia is great at BJJ, but plenty of people have avoided his submission attempts.

Fitch could certainly lose, and if he does it will be by submission. But it is highly unlikely that Fitch will get caught in a sub.

1. Because he is a wrestler with excellent control and submission defense

2. Because he knows he's fighting Demian Maia and he will be extra aware and extra careful
Posted by Shoulderchoke
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Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 2/1/13 at 11:01 pm to
Rampage Jackson hasn't KOd someone in five years, would you stand and bang with him?

The threat is always there if you get complatient with a specialist
Posted by PrimeTime Money
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Member since Nov 2012
27304 posts
Posted on 2/1/13 at 11:17 pm to
Knockouts and submissions are very different.

Knockouts can come from nowhere if you just happen to land a very clean punch. There are a ton of punches and kicks thrown in a fight, so the longer you are trading punches, the more likely you are to get knocked out.

So it's always risky to stand and trade, even if Rampage isn't that good anymore.

But with submissions, it is all skill. You don't just luck into submitting somebody. So if you haven't had a submission win in years, it isn't like knocking somebody out where you just didn't land a perfect punch, it means the other fighter can defend against your submission attempts.
Posted by Shoulderchoke
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Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 2/2/13 at 6:24 am to
The UFC has had a ton of gimmie submissions and Fitch is notorious for putting himself in bad spots to try and gain position... Damien Maia is not the guy to do that with.

Fitch does posses the one key to stopping that, dominant top control. However, he better stay alert and active or he can very easily be submitted. There are black belts then there is Damian Maia, he's on a different level. The same way a striker can land one punch and end the fight, Maia can catch you being lazy and sweep or sub you.
Posted by SmackDaniels
Gulf Breeze, FL
Member since Mar 2007
15134 posts
Posted on 2/2/13 at 10:53 am to
Aldo has fought twice in two years. Edgar will be on his 7th fight in 2.5 years.

I think Edgar takes this. The wars he has been in with BJ Penn, Gray Maynard, Benson will give him the edge.
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