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re: Can an old timer give a history lesson of the LSU/Kentucky basketball series?

Posted on 1/24/13 at 6:43 pm to
Posted by 75helpmacpack
atlanta
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Posted on 1/24/13 at 6:43 pm to
Dale recruited Kenny Higgs...Kentucky mr basketball in 1973/74 and we beat kentucky at home in his freshman or soph year. The arena went crazy....one of Dales earliest and best "big wins"
Posted by peopleschamp
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 1/24/13 at 6:52 pm to
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Can an old timer give a history lesson of the LSU/Kentucky basketball series?

Are you gonna get Josh dworaczyk to give us a history lesson?
Posted by GetmorewithLes
UK Basketball Fan
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 1/24/13 at 7:43 pm to
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What are the chances LSU keeps things close with a not so hot Kentucky team on Saturday. I think they can.


Very high. And if you look at my avatar info you see I am a UK BB fan. This yrs UK team is talented but is so inconsistent and has no depth. Last week they put in a beautiful effort to beat Auburn at AU by 20. Three days later they put a similarly good first half up against Bama at Tuscaloosa. The second half however they folded due to basketball immaturity.
So a good "A-game" from the Tigers will put them in the win column. Hell UK lost to aTm at Rupp this year and they suck.
Posted by ole yeller
Bates Motel
Member since May 2009
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Posted on 1/24/13 at 8:48 pm to
I don't know the year but the last game of the regular season would have given us an undefeated season in the SEC. But we lost to KY, and I was at a Mardi Gras parade, listening on the radio.
Those were the years...........
Posted by LCTigers69
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 1/24/13 at 9:06 pm to
Joe B. Hall
Eddie Sutton
Rick Pitino

Brown got along o.k. with Eddie Sutton from his Arkansas days, but the rivalry with Hall and Pitino was the real deal.

The "jacket" game was in 1978 at brand new Rupp Arena. The next 2 years, however, LSU beat KY at Rupp.

LSU beat KY in the SEC tourney final ... the only SEC Tourney championship for LSU basketball.

LSU was 17-0 in conference going into the final game at KY in 1981, but lost. The early to mid-1980's was the peak of the rivalry. LSU beat KY to go to the Final 4 in 1986 (Chicken pox season). In 1987 regular season, LSU blew out KY in Rupp.

The Pitino "shove match" happened in 1990 in BR. The 1994 collapse was the beginning of the downfall of the Brown era.
This post was edited on 1/24/13 at 9:08 pm
Posted by RANDY44
Member since Aug 2005
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Posted on 1/24/13 at 9:45 pm to
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The '80 Cats went 29-6, and lost to LSU at home, and also in the NCAA Tourney.

Correction. LSU defeated Kentucky in the finals of the SEC tourney. They did not meet in the NC2A tourney.
Posted by JEAUXBLEAUX
Bayonne, NJ
Member since May 2006
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Posted on 1/24/13 at 10:34 pm to
I was at the 78 game. Amazing night
This post was edited on 1/26/13 at 7:39 am
Posted by The Boat
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Posted on 1/25/13 at 1:59 pm to
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Posted by H-Town Tiger
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Posted on 1/25/13 at 2:06 pm to
LSU-UK basketball was the tits back in the 80's. I used to lose sleep just thinking that UK might win the NC

When the SEC expanded to 12 and stopped home and home with everyone, the rivlary started to decline. Of course LSU basketball going in the tank made it meaningless.
Posted by jhhingle
New Orleans
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 1/25/13 at 2:15 pm to
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The most infamous UK game I remember was the 1994 game we lost in BR where we blew a 31 point lead in the 2nd half.

Remember watching this was Mardi Gras night I could swear was 92? The first year of SEC re-alighnment? Regardless pulled my hair out at the end of this! It surpassed the biggest comeback over a team since a Tulame team they said!
Was 94, stand corrected, the record was Duke vs Tulame at the time for comeback!
This post was edited on 1/25/13 at 2:33 pm
Posted by Minnesota Tiger
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 1/25/13 at 2:36 pm to
1994: I remember LSU still being up by about 25 and the radio announcer says "It seems like LSU is playing not to lose."

I groaned.
Posted by TheBaker
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 1/25/13 at 2:50 pm to
Funny, I remember being up by 31 with about 15 mins left in the game...then by 20 with under 10 mins and thinking "we're in trouble". I was FURIOUS at the end of that one. The Indiana game in '87 was the most painful LSU basketball experience ever.
Posted by I-59 Tiger
Vestavia Hills, AL
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 1/25/13 at 3:20 pm to
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Can an old timer give a history lesson of the LSU/Kentucky basketball series?


Like pre-1990.


You rang?

Prior to Tulane and Georgia Tech leaving the SEC, the SEC basically had division --without having divisions. What I mean is the two didn't always play home and home and that started each year in 1966-1967. This lasted through 1990-1991.

LSU and Kentucky didn't play AT all in 1954,but they both finished unbeaten in SEC play. This was 21 yrs before more than one team from a conference could play in the NCAA's,so the SEC had LSU and Kentucky play at Vanderbilt in Nashville.Kentucky won,63-56 but declined the bid as 'grad students' could not play in post-season (several SEC baseball champions deferred to the runnerup in that era for the same reason). LSU went to the NCAA's that year.



Playoff game at Vandy-- Bob Pettit is # 50.

LSU got their first win in 1961, a 73-59 win at the Ag Center. Miss State won the SEC, but Mississippi law prohibited them from going to the NCAA's which enabled UK to go. (same thing happened in La with LSU's baseball team that Spring--fancy words about playing blacks)

LSU didn't win again until 1972, Adolph Rupp's last year, as well as Press Maravich's in the first year of the Assembly Center. LSU crushed them on the SEC game of the week, 88-71 --and at that time it was THE game of the week.

The '78 game LSU won in OT has been discussed as has Dale's outburst in the game in Lexington that year earlier when Dale went on a rant about how physical UK was and when Billy Reed of the Louisville Courier-Journal asked him if LSU was pure, Brown then asked Reed, "have you ever masturbated ?"

'79 was when LSU beat UK in Lexington for the first time. LSU never won in Memorial Coliseum and this was year 3 of Rupp Arena. LSU won the BR game but in the first year of the SEC tournament renewal in Birmingham they met again. In a totally bastardized format, LSU and Tennessee (the top two teams) got two game/day byes. LSU met Kentucky in the semis and was just blown out 80-67 in a game that wasn't that close. This was the game where Scales got in trouble for not shooting and passing more per an agent's instructions.

1980 were pure classics.Each won on the other's court -- LSU 65-60 in Lexington and UK 76-74 in Baton Rouge that was NOT the day of the USA beating USSR in hockey,but the gold medal game. A week later in the snow in Birmingham, LSU won 80-78 to win the SEC tourney. NCAA seeding had started the year before and LSU and UK became the first two teams from one conference to get #1 seeds, LSU in the MW and UK in the Mideast.

In 1981,#6 LSU bombed #3 UK 81-67 in Baton Rouge. NBC had them play the final game of the year in Lexington. LSU was 17-0 in SEC play. Only UK's 1969-1970 team had won 17 in SEC play going 17-1.UK won 73-71.

'82 was another split, with LSU winning 94-78 in the home finale in one of the more under-rated LSU games in any sport.After flirting with an SEC title run,LSU lost 5 of 6 down the stretch. UK and Tenn were tied for first,so the game was huge for #7 Ky.They got up 21-13 early,but LSU went on a wild 32-6 run to end the half.LSU got up by as much as 35 as everything LSU went in and UK couldn't shoot,pass,etc.

After splitting again in '84,Kentucky won big in Baton Rouge and even bigger in Lexington. Dale was miked for the Lexington game. Paul Galvan,who was the official who did the infamous clock game vs Tennessee in 1982 did his first LSU game since then. During one break after a questionable call, Dale leaned over to him and said,"Paul,I've had you blackballed before and I'll do it again." Just for NBC's camera and sound.

Split in 1985 with once again NBC (even thought they lost the NCAA tourney in 1982,they still showed a lot of college games until 1989 or so)having Kentucky at LSU on tv in the season finale. LSU won 67-61 which after Georgia lost to Tennessee, gave LSU the SEC title outright.This was Joe B Hall's last year and the loss gave him a losing record 7-8 in Baton Rouge.

1986 had 4 games, all classics.#8 Kentucky under Eddie Sutton came to Baton Rouge in the first game after the "chicken pox" outbreak and rescheduling of games. Roger Harden nailed one at the buzzer to win 54-52.They won 68-57 at Lexington and six days later met in the SEC tourney semifinal.

LSU was playing for their NCAA life after starting out 14-0. The win over Florida the day before was LSU's first tournament win (SEC,NIT or NCAA ) since 1981.LSU played about as gutty as they could before 22,997 Kentucky fans and me and two other LSU fans. :lol: LSU led 56-51 with 2:00 left but lost 61-58. Still,John Williams was named the MVP of the tourney amidst howls of protest the next day.He remains the only player to win the MVP and not be in title game.

The next week in Atlanta's Omni was one of LSU's finest hours,regardless of sport. The two met for the fourth time and third in three weeks,with LSU winning 59-57 to go to the Final Four.
Posted by FredSez
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2007
174 posts
Posted on 1/25/13 at 3:42 pm to
I was at that game - the greatest college basketball game I have ever seen. Took five years off my life. We had guys playing that I never had seen as everyone fouled out - cats lost one game that year; to the Tigers!!
Posted by SaintsSBXLIV
Washington DC
Member since Dec 2012
428 posts
Posted on 1/25/13 at 4:24 pm to
A great family friend of mine, played football for UK during the Pistol days and attended the LSU/UK bball games in Lex. To this day he claims the only visiting player the UK fans ever cheered for was Pete. Going into the game the fans gave Pete the business, however, after the games, that UK won, the fans all stayed late to cheer Pete. He claims it was and has been the only time UK Bball fans showed up to watch someone not wearing Blue.
This post was edited on 1/25/13 at 4:26 pm
Posted by T
Member since Jan 2004
9889 posts
Posted on 1/25/13 at 4:43 pm to
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1994: I remember LSU still being up by about 25 and the radio announcer says "It seems like LSU is playing not to lose." I groaned.


People forget that lsu had no business even getting up by 31 on that kentucky team full of nba players. The next year kentucky put up 80 something in the 1st half and the rivalry was over.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
164005 posts
Posted on 1/25/13 at 5:06 pm to
Sweet.
Posted by sertorius
Third Plebeian
Member since Oct 2008
1507 posts
Posted on 1/25/13 at 5:47 pm to
I-59 Tiger,

This is why I still read the RANT. In between asinine, immature, and pejorative verbal assaults, we get the occasional post of information that few could offer. Amazing.

Thanks.
Posted by TigerMike58
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2010
724 posts
Posted on 1/25/13 at 7:26 pm to
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Tiger Ugly

I don't think we ever beat Kentucky until the 60's and that just once and it wasn't with Pete.




We had to have beat them in 1952/53 and/or 1953/54. Bob Pettit took the team to the Final Four those two seasons & only the SEC Champ went to what was then, only the Sweet Sixteen.

ETA: I guess not!




This post was edited on 1/25/13 at 7:44 pm
Posted by TigerMike58
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2010
724 posts
Posted on 1/25/13 at 7:29 pm to
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TupeloTiger

During the Final Four era of Dale Brown, we would beat everybody but Kentucky.




This is untrue. We had trouble in the Robey/Philips twin towers era, but we did beat them in the starter foul out game. During Dale's hay day, we swept or split with them nearly every year.




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