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re: Top 25 under 25 on by Thorpe ETA: Now updated with "Next 10"
Posted on 1/22/13 at 9:31 pm to danman6336
Posted on 1/22/13 at 9:31 pm to danman6336
quote:
Griffin at 3 is a joke
Someone please post air ball 3 gifs
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Posted on 1/22/13 at 10:13 pm to The Future
I know we are all anti Griffin here, since CP3 left us for him so to speak, but the guy is a highly productive player.
Posted on 1/22/13 at 10:18 pm to htran90
westbrook is fricking good...his explosiveness is a huge asset.
...maybe he's viewed negatively at times cause he's taking away (maybe) a little from the 2nd best player in the nba.
but he's a superstar...i'd put him top 3 under 25 easy
...maybe he's viewed negatively at times cause he's taking away (maybe) a little from the 2nd best player in the nba.
but he's a superstar...i'd put him top 3 under 25 easy
This post was edited on 1/22/13 at 10:19 pm
Posted on 1/22/13 at 10:19 pm to RonBurgundy
Posted on 1/22/13 at 11:46 pm to RonBurgundy
quote:
I know we are all anti Griffin here, since CP3 left us for him so to speak, but the guy is a highly productive player
hes a bit of a dbag on the court and the media loves him, so he is easy for people to hate.
But you're right. You dont put up 20 and 10 your first two years in this league just because you're a great athlete. The guy is a top tier player.
Posted on 1/23/13 at 12:41 am to corndeaux
he's an athletic freak, but if he doesn't develop a better mid-range jumper he's in for a short "top 10 career"
btw, since I can't read insider stuff. Isn't kevin love <25? How does he rank? I personally think he's a better PF than blake griffin at this point, but people differ.
btw, since I can't read insider stuff. Isn't kevin love <25? How does he rank? I personally think he's a better PF than blake griffin at this point, but people differ.
This post was edited on 1/23/13 at 12:43 am
Posted on 1/23/13 at 2:32 am to htran90
I was wondering the same about Kevin love also. A double-double machine, plus a 6'10 guy that can shoot 3s. How can he not be top 5?
Posted on 1/23/13 at 8:14 am to duyp
When healthy, IMO:
Durant
Rose
Love
Westbrook
Harden
Durant
Rose
Love
Westbrook
Harden
Posted on 1/23/13 at 8:54 am to CocoLoco
Yeah, does anyone know where kyrie Irving is listed? He going to be up there in the future with AD.
Posted on 1/23/13 at 9:15 am to duyp
Full list-which has taken injuries into account
Again: 3yr WARP is the major metirc being used combined with current production
Durant
Westbrook
Griffin
Harden
Rose
Irving
Ibaka
Love
Lopez
Curry
Faried
Holiday
Davis
Monore
Anderson
Batum
Thad Young
Paul George
Cousins
Jennings
Lillard
Larry Sanders
DeAndre Jordan
Ed Davis
Eric Bledsoe
Players I listed in bold have dropped because of health, as a Kevin Love has the second highest 3yr WARP among all listed.
Again: 3yr WARP is the major metirc being used combined with current production
Durant
Westbrook
Griffin
Harden
Rose
Irving
Ibaka
Love
Lopez
Curry
Faried
Holiday
Davis
Monore
Anderson
Batum
Thad Young
Paul George
Cousins
Jennings
Lillard
Larry Sanders
DeAndre Jordan
Ed Davis
Eric Bledsoe
Players I listed in bold have dropped because of health, as a Kevin Love has the second highest 3yr WARP among all listed.
This post was edited on 1/23/13 at 9:36 am
Posted on 1/23/13 at 9:32 am to htran90
quote:
he's an athletic freak, but if he doesn't develop a better mid-range jumper he's in for a short "top 10 career"
Who cares how he scores if he's scoring 20 points on 50+% shooting
Posted on 1/23/13 at 9:34 am to GynoSandberg
quote:
quote:
he's an athletic freak, but if he doesn't develop a better mid-range jumper he's in for a short "top 10 career"
Who cares how he scores if he's scoring 20 points on 50+% shooting
i think what he's saying, though i may be wrong, is that he can't dunk over people his whole career. he's only got a few more years of that before his knees give out on him doing that.
Posted on 1/23/13 at 9:45 am to quail man
1. He's only 23
2. He's 6'10". It's not like he relies soley on his vert. He has nice moves in the post as well
2. He's 6'10". It's not like he relies soley on his vert. He has nice moves in the post as well
Posted on 1/23/13 at 11:35 am to GynoSandberg
Here is a list of players who recorded 20ppg and 10rpg in either of their first two years in the league since 1980.
LINK
For a guy that apparently has no skills other than dunking, he measures pretty well against mostly Hall of Famers.
LINK
For a guy that apparently has no skills other than dunking, he measures pretty well against mostly Hall of Famers.
This post was edited on 1/23/13 at 11:37 am
Posted on 1/24/13 at 1:54 pm to htran90
The next 10 have been posted:
Wall
Rubio
Turner
Drummond
Favors
Gordon
Gallinari
Evans
Klay Thompson
MKG
*Of note this was not written by Thorpe or Pelton, it was written by Elhassan and doesn't seem to use WARP as a metric.
Wall
Rubio
Turner
Drummond
Favors
Gordon
quote:
The third member of the list who has missed significant time due to injury, Gordon is the most explosive scorer of the Next 10. Despite the specter of possible microfracture surgery hovering over him, he has fought back and regained his 2010-11 level of scoring per 36 minutes at 21.3. However, his efficiency has dipped dramatically (eFG%: 0.424), although it can be argued this is part of a larger trend of regression in his career that correlates with his larger role on offense. Still, if Gordon can return to his previous level of health, he is a dangerous scoring threat who combines a strong frame and quick first step to get to the free throw line frequently (career free throw attempt rate: 0.382), where he converts (career FT%: 0.808). This not only benefits him with easier scoring opportunities from the line, but also helps his team get into the bonus earlier.
Gallinari
Evans
Klay Thompson
MKG
*Of note this was not written by Thorpe or Pelton, it was written by Elhassan and doesn't seem to use WARP as a metric.
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