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BugAC
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Obama's speechwriter is awful



When crafting a speech, especially an important one, you should not speak from weakness. If you believe, 100% in what you are saying, you do not need to explain yourself. I'm examining some of the stuff Obama said in his speech.

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We must make the hard choices to reduce the cost of health care and the size of our deficit. But we reject the belief that America must choose between caring for the generation that built this country and investing in the generation that will build its future,


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The commitments we make to each other -- through Medicare and Medicaid and Social Security -- these things do not sap our initiative; they strengthen us.


So you are admitting that your commitment to these entitlements DO sap our initiative. If you are speaking from a position of strength, negatives should be eliminated from your speech.

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They do not make us a nation of takers; they free us to take the risks that make this country great.


So now you plant the seed that we are a nation of takers. Again, speaking from weakness not strength. If he was smart, he'd fire his speech writer, or at least proof read it before opening his mouth.







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EthanL
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So now you plant the seed that we are a nation of takers. Again, speaking from weakness not strength. If he was smart, he'd fire his speech writer, or at least proof read it before opening his mouth.


When he said that I immediately thought about Mitt Romney, his 47% comment, and this board.



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Teddy Ruxpin
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Obama's speechwriter is awful


I agree.

They don't know how to handle big speeches on truly important matters. Obviously, their campaign stuff in '08 did well with the masses.

The Bin Laden speech should have been about 5 minutes long detailing what happened on the ground, congratulating those who put in hard work and wrapped up.

Instead we got this flowery shite.

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It was nearly 10 years ago that a bright September day was darkened by the worst attack on the American people in our history. The images of 9/11 are seared into our national memory -- hijacked planes cutting through a cloudless September sky; the Twin Towers collapsing to the ground; black smoke billowing up from the Pentagon; the wreckage of Flight 93 in Shanksville, Pennsylvania, where the actions of heroic citizens saved even more heartbreak and destruction.


Adding vocabulary sometimes takes away the strength/emotion of the point you're trying to make. The speech is like 10 paragraphs long.


Compare:


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President Bush: Thank you all. I want you all to know -- it [bullhorn] can't go any louder -- I want you all to know that American today, American today is on bended knee, in prayer for the people whose lives were lost here, for the workers who work here, for the families who mourn. The nation stands with the good people of New York City and New Jersey and Connecticut as we mourn the loss of thousands of our citizens

Rescue Worker: I can't hear you!

President Bush: I can hear you! I can hear you! The rest of the world hears you! And the people -- and the people who knocked these buildings down will hear all of us soon!



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Y.A. Tittle
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I don't think the speechwriters are to blame. I think what you're pointing to is really a central tenet of his whole worldview.

The unnamed boogeymen must ALWAYS be in the picture and constantly referenced.






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BugAC
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The unnamed boogeymen must ALWAYS be in the picture and constantly referenced.


Yeah. If he was smart, he would omit any negatives in his speech. There is no reason to admit the negative when you are trying to reinforce a positive. The negative detracts to any positive he is trying to put out. Also makes his argument for that positive weak, and full of doubt.






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CarrolltonTiger
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There is no reason to admit the negative when you are trying to reinforce a positive. .



You don't grasp his point at all.

He is reinforcing the class division, he is speking to his people who are being thwarted by the other.

The old and the young deserve to be cared for but there are hearltess others who do not want to pay for this. Caring for the disadvantaged makes us stronger and allows us to grow if those others will pay the taxes we need.

He is speaking to his clients who wnat income transfers and progress, that is a most positive message to his people.

Now if you are a hard working tax paying citizen worried about the future of your own children and grand children it is more of a what the frick moment, but you are a dinousar and need to die out and let the progress be made as the dysfunctionals live the dream.






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goatmilker
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Now if you are a hard working tax paying citizen worried about the future of your own children and grand children it is more of a what the frick moment, but you are a dinousar and need to die out and let the progress be made as the dysfunctionals live the dream.


Well said.






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50Mullets
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Anyone who remembers the stuff Obama says without a speech writer will know that this stuff is far better than it could have been.





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Womski
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Actually I think he comes off as pretty compromising and humble. I don't think it's really all that bad. But then again, I remember W's speeches.





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TrueTiger
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For the American people can no more meet the demands of today’s world by acting alone than American soldiers could have met the forces of fascism or communism with muskets and militias.


What was this aimed at? Was this a dig at the 2nd Amendment? Calling it out as old-fashioned and obsolete?







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blueboy
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Obama's speechwriter
"the other John Favreau.

He's not bad, but I don't think anyone told him that the campaign is over. The address was just another demographically-targeted, talking point-filled speech, as if he was still running for president.

Then again, the second term inauguration is always underwhelming. It was the same way with Clinton, Bush and Reagan.






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Wild Thang
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He needs to hire this guy.......









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ponger3d
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It would have been nice to here about our economy, you know the thing that we just cant seem to get right.





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CajunAngele
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He said nothing in his speech but some warped dream in Valerie Jarretts head that Obama is like Reagan and great. While Obama said nothing but the same fake promises. How can dems get off on this crap is beyond me.





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Bestbank Tiger
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While Obama said nothing but the same fake promises. How can dems get off on this crap is beyond me.


I kige this.

Anyone with critical thinking skills sees through his rhetoric and knows it bears no resemblance to his actions.






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FlyingTiger06
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President Bush: I can hear you! I can hear you! The rest of the world hears you! And the people -- and the people who knocked these buildings down will hear all of us soon!


Don't care about politics; this still gives me goosebumps and gets me fired up at the same time. I think this was W's best moment as President. He screwed up the English language often when trying to be politically correct and say what "sounded good." However, I believe in this moment he spoke straight from his heart and nailed it.

When I ever have doubts about staying in the military, I watch some of the 9/11 documentaries and especially watch this piece. If nothing else, it showed that our leadership would ensure that those who took a cheap shot at us would get a forceful answer.






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corndeaux
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it's a rhetorical device. he is directly addressing and rebuking the platform that romney/ryan ran on.

considering he won the election convincingly, it isnt a sign of weakness to hammer home those points.

it is, as was said earlier, a campaign speech and wont win him any friends across the aisle. but he doesnt seem to care about that at this time






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