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short barrel rifle question
Posted on 1/17/13 at 8:36 pm
Posted on 1/17/13 at 8:36 pm
can i legally order a short barrel for my AR off of the internet, while i wait for my atf forms to be processed, as long as i dont assemble the barrel on the rifle?
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Posted on 1/17/13 at 8:37 pm to wildswamptiger
If I had to guess yes. It's nothing but a piece of pipe until you attach a gun to it.
Posted on 1/17/13 at 8:38 pm to wildswamptiger
My understanding is no, unless you have a pistol lower. Parts for a pistol can be bought for ~$80...
If I am wrong someone will correct me shortly...
If I am wrong someone will correct me shortly...
Posted on 1/17/13 at 8:38 pm to wildswamptiger
Yes! Only parts with a serial number need to be concern of yours. Of course, on the AR that is the receiver. All of the upper, grip, stock, etc. are considered accessories. Order away!
Posted on 1/17/13 at 8:41 pm to wildswamptiger
The way I understood it was if you have a pistol lower in the house you're fine as long as the sbr upper is not on the rifle lower but you can't have the sbr upper without a the credentials or a pistol lower.
Posted on 1/17/13 at 8:41 pm to wildswamptiger
You can do whatever you want. If you really want the barrel, Id buy it and not assemble the upper until the paperwork for the sbr shows up.
Posted on 1/17/13 at 8:48 pm to wildswamptiger
Having the barrel under the same roof as a receiver is fine. Having an SBR upper under the same roof as a nonregistered receiver can be considered "constructive intent".
Posted on 1/17/13 at 9:29 pm to wildswamptiger
You sure can
Posted on 1/17/13 at 9:32 pm to Carson123987
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You sure can
There you go wildswamp. The man has spoken.
Posted on 1/17/13 at 9:33 pm to wildswamptiger
I am going to go against the grain and say no. I thought that if you had the capability of making a class 3 weapon (SBR, SBS) then it was illegal.
I thought that if you had the barrel in your possession that you must have the pistol lower or a registered lower.
I thought that if you had the barrel in your possession that you must have the pistol lower or a registered lower.
Posted on 1/17/13 at 9:39 pm to Ice Cream Sammich
Is it not just a piece of threaded pipe?
Posted on 1/17/13 at 9:49 pm to wildswamptiger
quote:
can i legally order a short barrel
I might have misread, so just the barrel and not the entire upper? Might be ok, but for an $80 pistol conversion kit...
Posted on 1/17/13 at 9:57 pm to wildswamptiger
I am in the process right now. At the moment I have a finished SBR upper and new, stripped lower. My one AR 15 resides with a friend. I will build this rifle as a pistol and use it as such until my SBR stamp comes through. When it does I'll convert the pistol to a SBR and get my other AR back from my friend.
Posted on 1/17/13 at 9:58 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
I really dont know how to answer this without sounding like a dick, but isnt a grenade just some metal and gun powder?
If you own a full auto sear and no lower I believe that you also get yourself in some trouble.
If you own a full auto sear and no lower I believe that you also get yourself in some trouble.
Posted on 1/17/13 at 10:23 pm to Ice Cream Sammich
Good point.
I know nothing about these things
I know nothing about these things
Posted on 1/17/13 at 10:29 pm to Ice Cream Sammich
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I thought that if you had the barrel in your possession that you must have the pistol lower or a registered lower.
nope. you can own the barrel if you want. A lot of people will order a 14.5" barrel and then permanently attach a muzzle break/flash hider to make it 16". It's only illegal if you put it on a rifle
Posted on 1/17/13 at 10:35 pm to Carson123987
But if the ATF or FBI came knocking on your door before you welded the muzzle brake to the 14.5" barrel I think you would be shite up a creek.
I am by no means an expert but I have always heard this and just dont want to have an OBer doing 10 years. I know that Landry at Landry's Guns would know. Ill give him a call tomorrow.
I am by no means an expert but I have always heard this and just dont want to have an OBer doing 10 years. I know that Landry at Landry's Guns would know. Ill give him a call tomorrow.
Posted on 1/18/13 at 12:24 am to wildswamptiger
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can i legally order a short barrel for my AR off of the internet, while i wait for my atf forms to be processed, as long as i dont assemble the barrel on the rifle?
I'm pretty sure as long as you don't attach the upper and lower you'll be fine.
Posted on 1/18/13 at 12:38 am to bapple
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pretty sure as long as you don't attach the upper and lower you'll be fine.
Yes. I dint think they'd let you order the barrel if it was illegal
Posted on 1/18/13 at 1:06 am to wildswamptiger
This thread has made it clear that you shouldn't take legal advice on the OB.
ATF used to have an office in BR. Call them.
ATF used to have an office in BR. Call them.
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