re: Deadspin: Manti Te'o Dead Girlfriend Story a Hoax (now with drug dealers!)

I didn't hear Golic but Skip is still riding Te'o's jock and Stephen A still says he doesn't believe Te'o not one little bit

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Normally, dude's acting with that righteous indignation is extremely annoying, but when he's slamming Te'o and Notre Dame, I like it.

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^^^ This.And I'm right there with him.Te'o's story looks like a Duck and quacks like a Duck.So I believe,in fact,that it is a....

You knew somebody would do this....

any new news on this lying thug pos

I want Charlie Rose to interview him. That MFer can get you talking. Or Howard Stern, people admit shite on his show they would never even think about saying. Obviously, those guys are on different ends of the spectrum, but I don't like CAA writing softball questions for Couric to lob up there under the guise of a 'hard hitting' interview.

That more hasn't been made of that is annoying.

Even if Te'o and Couric weren't both linked to CAA, 'Couric' and 'hard-hitting' don't really go together anyways

Oh, I know, but that's what they'll be selling, and some people will still buy it.

I heard a few interesting things on Petros & Money's Friday show, Petros was out, Kirk Morrison was filling in. So two guys that know the NFL draft process (Money works for NFL network and covers the combine). They also had Daniel Jeremiah on there as well.

Teams are only allowed to interview a certain amount of people at the combine. They basically said all 32 teams will request to interview Teo out of sheer curiosity.

But beyond that, every ND player at the combine will be asked more about the Teo situation than their own situation. And that's where we may start to get some real answers, unless CAA signs them all. Teo will be coached up for the interviews, those other guys may not be ready for those questions.

*Extremely Long*

Still a lot of questions and lies to be parsed through IMO.

2009:

Obviously his father lied about the 2009 meeting in Stanford. Te'o also lied with Thamel, claiming he met her through his cousin. Then in the Schaap interview he basically says Thamel misquoted him and was wrong.

Then he says they met in 2009 on facebook? But their first twitter communication in 2011 says "nice to meet you!"...what is that about?

Yes, this means there are 3 or 4 different initial "meetings" between the two depending on which version you choose to believe.

2010-Early to Mid 2011:

Substantial parts of 2010 and the first part of 2011 seem completely blank, only talking on and off, sometimes to Ronaiah. Why in October/November 2011 did it pick back up randomly? There were no requests to meet these people during this time?

Late 2011-Early April 2012

Te'o states in the Pete Thamel article that they became a couple in late 2011. He has since recanted that story by claiming it was actually around April/May 2012 they really became something more than friends (post-car wreck). In the Schaap interview, Te'o states in late 2011 Lennay was having problems w/ her boyfriend. WTF?

Were they ever a couple? Notre Dame students apparently said it was well known around campus during this time that he hooked up with other girls. Further, anonymous football players have questioned the validity of this relationship?

There should be LOTS of contact b/t the two that investigators or the media or whoever could pinpoint w/ phone records, facebook interactions, twitter interactions, etc for this specific period if they were indeed "falling in love"...after all, in the Schaap interview he claims was her "shoulder to cry on" while she was having boyfriend problems.

April 28 2012-November 2012

April 28th Lennay has her supposed car wreck. This kicks off the whole coma episode, but her breathing improves when she hears his voice b/c she can recognize it. Her family is expressing to Manti how important it is. At this point, he's still being hoaxed if you believe his side of the story and then we get this:

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It never really crossed my mind. I don't know. I was in school. I was finishing up my year and I was going home

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That's why he never went to see her from the Schaap interview. You know why else? Because there was never a fricking relationship. Check this out:

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Before the car crash, it was -- we were talking. I was talking to her. I was talking to other girls. Just trying to get to know people. I was a college player, just trying to get a feel of who was who.

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So, the first time he considers himself in a relationship w/ this girl is when she's in a coma? Love of his life and all that stuff, huh?

Then maybe the most ridiculous part of his story, if he claims he was duped, b/c this is a little too stupid:

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It's kind of weird to think about it now. I was actually on the phone when she actually got out of the coma. She was breathing as normal as I'm talking to a person breathing. On that phone call, all she utters is "Manti." I'm back at home at the time for summer break. And she utters "Manti." So I'm sitting there … like, by the way, hello, And she says "Manti, Manti" in a faint voice. That's when she wakes up. It happened about two, three, four days after I got home (in mid-May).

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It's after the coma that he claims to have spoke to her every single day and stayed up late nights sleeping with the phone by his side:

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No, after April 28th, it was all phone, all phone.

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Show me the records.

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But really we're talking about an intense relationship only from April 28, and only a few weeks after that she gets out of a coma, so mid-May until September. So less than four months

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A 3-4 month relationship? Really? Wait a minute:

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JEREMY SCHAAP: So this whole time she's in the hospital?
MANTI TE'O: This whole time.

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Finds out she has leukemia after this horrendous wreck, coma, and battle in the hospital. Did Te'o go visit her? Planned to see her during his time away from football on July 4th, but his dad convinced him to travel w/ his family to Utah instead (his dad is the co-conspirator?)

Anyway, he did continue to talk to her on the reg up until September

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September 2012-November 2012

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September 12th both his grandmother and Lennay pass away.

He grieves, mourns, sends white roses, and breaks down at practice when the casket is closed within the coming days.

In October, Thamel gets his interview with various lies sprinkled throughout. He researched and found the various lies. Wrote the story anyway.

Media all over the nation run with it and it blows up.

By late October and through November the ND for National Champs and Te'o for Heisman movements were in full swing w/ the primary focus being Te'o and the year his had, both on and off the field.

Further, FWIW, Te'o gets another girlfriend somewhere in these two months.

So, just to recap this love story:

Te'o and Lennay speak for a couple months and Te'o falls for her, but she still has a boyfriend and Te'o is just her shoulder to cry on. Then the accident occurs and now they start dating. When did Lennay and her boyfriend break up? We're never told. We're only told that they start dating in Mid-May up until her death in September. He skipped out on seeing her when he knew she had leukemia during his 4th of July hiatus. In September, she dies. By October she was "the love of his life" and by November he was getting laid elsewhere. Remarkable.

December 2012: The Twitter Game

Supposedly, on the 6th, he gets the call at the awards show. But, in what is probably my favorite part of story, there are reasons to question that.

Sometime before Dec. 3rd: @jayRahz questioned Lennay's existence and tweeted at her, meaning that those following her (including Te'o)would have had the potential to see that tweet. Then, @jayRahz tweeted @Catfish and @nevschulman (the main character in the original documentary) saying Lennay was fake, once again giving Te'o an opportunity to see it.

Dec. 3rd: @nevschulman tweets @mteo_5 and @lennaykay informing him that Lennay and her family do not exist. Te'o has over 195, 000 followers that should be aggregated with the amount of followers that Lennay has to show that even if he didn't see this tweet, SOMEBODY most certainly did.

Teo was active on twitter between the 3rd and 6th. He tweeted once on the 3rd, 4 times on the 4th, and once on the 5th. He at least had the opportunity to see it.


Obviously this isn't the exhaustive timeline of what all happened, just some highlights of how it all struck me as a little funny.

Plus, this has been my favorite thread on here of all time and I don't want it to die

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MenloDawg

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Nice work. This story is epic.

You need to add the Dec. 6th call where he found out it was a hoax or that she was still alive, hiding from drug dealer(s) and how he continued to lie afterwards, how ND found out on the 26th and ESPN probably new and still ran with the story.