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re: LHSAA--Anybody heard any rumors about the LHSAA Executive Director's job?

Posted on 1/21/13 at 8:31 am to
Posted by choupiquesushi
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Posted on 1/21/13 at 8:31 am to
FWIW.

In the past week I have talked to about 10 principals or ADs...

7 Select... 3 public.

all 3 publics WANT post season split - they realize regular season split would be catastrophic to them.

of the selects...

5 say if post season is split and many want to roll on.. they will move on... 1 doesn't care because they don't compete on a state wide level in sports that would be affected...

the ONE that could care less is from the group that is already very happy... they get what they want no matter what happens.. except they will try to get curtis and eca out of their realm... and with the 1a and 2a schools..

maybe a proposal to make privates play everyhting one class above enrollement...but still allow them to play up- not just one class - will be the break point...

really doesn't matter to me..

my kids school can compete with anyone in baseball.... football... not too shabby either... but my kid don't play football..
Posted by chalmetteowl
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Posted on 1/21/13 at 8:33 am to
the following schools and principals should be on a blacklist...

Marlin Ramsey, South Beauregard
Jane Griffin, Winnfield
Bridgett Bartlett, Atlanta
Stephen Weber, Destrehan
Jim McKeivier, Crowley
Mike Oakley, Iowa
Gibson Miller, Iota
Posted by b rod lsu
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Posted on 1/21/13 at 8:42 am to
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No, 7 brackets, which is part of the problem. The public schools want to maintain the 5 classes for publics but stuff the privates into 2. 1a and 2a and then 3a, 4a, and 5a together.



Interesting. I'll think before I comment, but I believe my thoughts will be similar to yours.
Posted by choupiquesushi
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Posted on 1/21/13 at 8:44 am to
quote:

LHSAA--Anybody heard any rumors about the LHSAA Executive Director's job?
the following schools and principals should be on a blacklist...

Marlin Ramsey, South Beauregard
Jane Griffin, Winnfield
Bridgett Bartlett, Atlanta
Stephen Weber, Destrehan
Jim McKeivier, Crowley
Mike Oakley, Iowa
Gibson Miller, Iota



what about the principals that caused all of this in the first place? they ain't on your list..

of course a couple are no longer principals....

the ringleaders from north la... 1. was tired of getting brow beat by eca.. the other was tired of getting beat in playoffs by curtis.

the south la ringleaders.. were tired of getting beat in playoffs by eca.. and were scared out of their skulls that curtis would end up in their district..

funny thing is they thought making those two play down would hurt them... yeah right...

if you gonna throw peoples names out there... name the ones that caused it too...

Posted by GhostofJackson
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Posted on 1/21/13 at 8:47 am to
Well a big issue is that this has come after the decision on which class to play in, and is going to be implemented next year. It really backs the privates into a corner because if they can't get what they see fit in this meeting this week, they will be screwed for 2 years. The LHSAA should have seen this coming and addressed this type of issue before it was a problem. You should never be able to implement class changes after classes have been established.
Posted by chalmetteowl
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Posted on 1/21/13 at 8:48 am to
except their names aren't on these proposals, so i don't know who they are

you're welcome to name them though

i would think if you might be ashamed to put your name on something, don't put it out there

if there's a split, i hope schools that don't support one would forfeit before ever playing a school on the blacklist
This post was edited on 1/21/13 at 8:51 am
Posted by bigcatfish
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Posted on 1/21/13 at 8:50 am to
Everybody play on a level playing field mentality.
Posted by bigcatfish
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Posted on 1/21/13 at 8:54 am to
I would think the majority of top gates come when select play select schools and non select play non select. Now if you would take your top three gates per year, you will probably have some mixture in there.
Posted by GhostofJackson
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Posted on 1/21/13 at 8:56 am to
Top gates are going to always come from old rivalries, not necessarily public vs private. Im sure some public gates of big rivals would be bigger than many private gates. School size is obviously an issue too.
Posted by GhostofJackson
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Posted on 1/21/13 at 9:00 am to
The more I read into it, the more I think it's going to pass and I hope the private schools are ready to put together a league in 7 months. I'm sure hiring quality people to run the league won't be an issue, but the logistics of finding sites for major events will be the big problem. Although, 100 schools shouldn't be terribly hard to deal with. Especially considering if you don't do everything to get on board the first year, you may get left out which no school wants to do. The only way a private league could be screwed up is if the catholic schools decide to have a statewide catholic league and leave the 40 or so non catholic private schools to fend for themselves, but some of those schools like Newman should be able to make sure that doesn't happen.
Posted by GhostofJackson
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Posted on 1/21/13 at 9:05 am to
And one other unintended consequence may be the rise of club sports in the state over the high school sport. As of now, even soccer and basektball has been kept in check for the most part, but I could see several club sports just telling the kids to say screw the school leagues now, stick with the club.
Posted by double d
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Posted on 1/21/13 at 9:19 am to
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the next guy after that needs to be a NOLA/ Catholic League guy then


uh, no. Get someone from the Acadiana area.
Posted by TigerintheNO
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Posted on 1/21/13 at 9:36 am to
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Now comes the biggest potential problem. If Proposal 18 passes, “select” schools could move quickly to form their own association. This week, several head coaches at select schools said they would be interested in such a split if the proposal passes. They note that many of the private schools play before big crowds while many public schools share in that revenue when they play against each other.

In December, one LHSAA source said, “They (publics) can talk all they want about a split. But when it comes time to vote, my guess is several will not pull the trigger.” Money talks.


This sums it up pretty good
Posted by TigerintheNO
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Posted on 1/21/13 at 9:36 am to
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This post was edited on 1/21/13 at 9:44 am
Posted by chalmetteowl
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Posted on 1/21/13 at 10:33 am to
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In December, one LHSAA source said, “They (publics) can talk all they want about a split. But when it comes time to vote, my guess is several will not pull the trigger.” Money talks.


THAT

MFing THAT

Chalmette being in a public school district is logical right now with the status quo. it's "fair" competition, and we need to win games in order to not be a joke.

but tell us we'll never play our biggest rival and all the other Catholic schools again (whether we lose to them all the time or not) and we'll think differently about a possible split.

lots of logical games won't happen if there's a split. Evangel/Barbe was a 48-47 classic last year, and we wouldn't get a rematch. St. Paul's wouldn't play Mandeville or Covington. Calvary Baptist would never get a chance to avenge their loss to Mansfield, likewise St. Aug's losses to East Jeff in football and basketball. Catholic would never play Central or Dutchtown.

Ouachita Christian would only be able to play St. Frederick in the Monroe area. likewise with Loyola Prep, Evangel, and Calvary in Shreveport

it's easy to say a split would be fair, but it's harder when you think in terms of "we'll never play again"
Posted by supatigah
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Posted on 1/21/13 at 11:29 am to
The delusional public school reps think there will be a combined regular season and a split playoff format. There is no reason whatsoever for select admission schools to agree to that. They want to use us to fill out their schedule, they want to pocket our money, then they want to kick us to the curb.

That is similar to "I want to bone you but you have to leave as soon as it is over"
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
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Posted on 1/21/13 at 11:41 am to
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The delusional public school reps think there will be a combined regular season and a split playoff format. There is no reason whatsoever for select admission schools to agree to that. They want to use us to fill out their schedule, they want to pocket our money, then they want to kick us to the curb.


100% this. No way I'd think about scheduling a public school after a split if I was a private school coach/administrator. I'd also favor a split from the lhsaa.
Posted by choupiquesushi
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Posted on 1/21/13 at 2:18 pm to
quote:

except their names aren't on these proposals, so i don't know who they are

you're welcome to name them though


heck two of em are friends of mine.. one I wouldn't walk across the street to spit on if he was on fire......

they were the ones leading the charge for play in class years ago.. which is what started this.


it ain't hard to figure out....


the publics know a split will be bad for them - which why they only want a post season split...

again. everyone that thinks the selects couldn't bolt and not miss a beat... better think again.....

when they forced curtis and eca into 2a and 1a.. this has been brewing now it's at a healthy boiling point... and the reason is pretty plain to see.

funny thing is publics and selects feel like they have been shafted... which in many cases both have.
Posted by GhostofJackson
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Posted on 1/21/13 at 2:45 pm to
The more I talk to coaches and read articles, the more I think two things: 1) this wont pass because a lot of public schools will realize how bad this will hurt them and 2) this could blow back up in the public schools faces by further appeasing private schools to keep them in the LHSAA.
Posted by chalmetteowl
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Posted on 1/21/13 at 11:00 pm to
what are the chances that if we have a split, that it's initiated by the private schools?
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