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re: How Come we didn't Hire Jimbo Fisher?

Posted on 1/10/13 at 1:50 pm to
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68310 posts
Posted on 1/10/13 at 1:50 pm to
Lost to nc state, has out recruited lsu for decades yet isnt on lsus level any more.

2002 and 2004 under jimbo were worse than any of crowton or studs offenses.

Fsu can have fisher and continue to struggle to win the acc.
Posted by stho381
Lafayette, LA
Member since Jan 2012
4628 posts
Posted on 1/10/13 at 1:59 pm to
quote:

David Shaw (too early to tell, don't know about his recruiting)
Kirby Smart (no, never been a HC in CFB)
shite I'd take Dabo Swinney (lol, no)
Art Briles (no)
Gary Patterson (maybe)
Chris Peterson (maybe, would like to see what he does in legit conference)
Kliff Kingsbury (no, never been a HC)
Dan Mullen (lol, no)
Hugh Freeze (same as Shaw)
Bobby Petrino (lol, no)



So basically, you are convinced that we need a spread offense type HC. It's obvious that offense is what you think makes a good HC, similar to the media believes. Point taken, I will ignore your posts from now on.
Posted by TexasTiger1185
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2011
13069 posts
Posted on 1/10/13 at 2:02 pm to
You do realize jimbo was under bowden for a few years, right?

The coach he is now is not the coach he would have been in 2005.
Posted by stho381
Lafayette, LA
Member since Jan 2012
4628 posts
Posted on 1/10/13 at 2:05 pm to
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The coach he is now is not the coach he would have been in 2005.


the play calls are still similar on offense.
Posted by TexasTiger1185
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2011
13069 posts
Posted on 1/10/13 at 2:09 pm to
Ok... Was that just a post for the sake of posting?

Posted by SBC
Member since Oct 2005
6868 posts
Posted on 1/10/13 at 2:25 pm to
Because EVERYONE hated him as OC....remember at Auburn in 2006? Jimbo "WR Screen" Fisher.
Posted by DontCare
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2012
2516 posts
Posted on 1/10/13 at 2:26 pm to
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Right now, I think a lot of people are better than Miles.


Posted by Commando
Never Never Land
Member since Jan 2009
2810 posts
Posted on 1/10/13 at 2:48 pm to
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When Saban left, supposedly they asked him and he didn't think Fisher was ready


Like they asked Arnsparger whether he thought we should hire Spurrier or Archer? Yeah, that was a great choice too.
Posted by TigerSpy
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2006
9897 posts
Posted on 1/10/13 at 3:16 pm to
FSU are underachieving choke artists. What are you talking about?
Posted by SabiDojo
Open to any suggestions.
Member since Nov 2010
83922 posts
Posted on 1/10/13 at 3:24 pm to
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I agree. Jimbo was always overrated and most in BR thought he was ok but not special. I think he's probably a good QB coach but his OC skills never amazed me. Of course it was always hard to really tell bc Saban and Miles may have forced him to be conservative.



Are you serious? He is a great coach. Why do you people think winning a National Title is so easy?
Posted by ironsides
Nashville, TN
Member since May 2006
8153 posts
Posted on 1/10/13 at 4:02 pm to
This thread is still going on?
Posted by airbornetiger
SATX
Member since Sep 2006
1416 posts
Posted on 1/10/13 at 4:19 pm to
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always wondered how we couldn't keep him and promote him to our HC position. Was he ever interviewed? Or did he just not want to become our HC? I mean hindsight is 20/20 but he's got FSU on the up and rising again.


REALLY? WTF? Jimbo has done nothing to prove he is capable of running a top notch program. He has been at FSU 6 or 7 years now--part of the time as "Head Coach in waiting and 3 full seasons as HC. What does he have to show for it? Come on, it isn't like he has not had significant influence on the teams look and play over the entire span--this is not like he showed up on campus 3 years ago as HC with no foundation under him.
Posted by Summer of George
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
5995 posts
Posted on 1/10/13 at 4:30 pm to
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Right now, I think a lot of people are better than Miles.


that's b/c you're fu*king stupid
Posted by SabiDojo
Open to any suggestions.
Member since Nov 2010
83922 posts
Posted on 1/10/13 at 4:38 pm to
At least Jimbo can beat Clemson.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66274 posts
Posted on 1/10/13 at 4:43 pm to
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At least Jimbo can beat Clemson.


But he can't beat Florida(who he would have to play at LSU) and an unranked North Carolina State.

He also lost to Clemson last year.

Posted by CajunAlum Tiger Fan
The Great State of Louisiana
Member since Jan 2008
7868 posts
Posted on 1/10/13 at 4:43 pm to
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It's retarded to judge a coach by one game.




Yeah right, on this board?
Posted by airbornetiger
SATX
Member since Sep 2006
1416 posts
Posted on 1/10/13 at 4:44 pm to
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At least Jimbo can beat Clemson.


Is this what you hang your hat on?

JIMBO: 31-10 in 3 years as HC
Posted by SabiDojo
Open to any suggestions.
Member since Nov 2010
83922 posts
Posted on 1/10/13 at 5:16 pm to
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But he can't beat Florida(who he would have to play at LSU) and an unranked North Carolina State.



The guy has beat Florida twice, dumbass.
Posted by SabiDojo
Open to any suggestions.
Member since Nov 2010
83922 posts
Posted on 1/10/13 at 5:18 pm to
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Is this what you hang your hat on?



I'm saying he is a great coach, moron. The guy is winning games. Do you dumbasses think that the only thing you have to do to win a championship is outrecruit everybody? Oh, I forgot. Everyone here on the Rant can win a Title.
Posted by Carlos
Member since Nov 2006
2130 posts
Posted on 1/10/13 at 6:00 pm to
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The ghost of Mike Archer played a big part in the thought process, I'd imagine.


This is the main reason. LSU was only five years removed from the 1990s at that time. This was before the recent successes of in-staff promotions like Bielema, Butch Jones and Chip Kelly. LSU had sound reasoning, and Bertman seemed to conduct a pretty thorough coaching search. Main candidates before Miles were Butch Davis (still being paid by the Browns, not to coach), and Bobby Petrino.

Of the remaining coaches available, Miles seemed to be the only one possessing the following characteristics: 1) NFL coaching experience 2) Successful head coaching experience at a BCS conference. Miles was one of four major hires in college football that offseason- the other theee being Meyer at Florida, Weis at Notre Dame and Spurrier at South Carolina. Miles hasn't fared so badly compared to the others, and keep in mind that each of those schools announced their vacancies in November 2004 or earlier, giving them about a month head-start on LSU (Saban resigned on Christmas Day).

I can't really fault the approach Bertman took with his coaching search in 2005. A program of our stature should primarily look at coaches with head coaching experience.
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