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re: Fernando Torres - What once was
Posted on 1/10/13 at 2:19 pm to BleedPurpleGold
Posted on 1/10/13 at 2:19 pm to BleedPurpleGold
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I have some wonderful memories of that Torres song. It seemed like everytime they sung it the supporters were vocalizing pure love. It sounds cheesy but go listen to it on youtube. They truly loved that kid with all of their hearts. I'll always wish the best for him, and I'll always get goosebumps listening to that song.
Couldn't have said it any better ... I'm going home tonite and making a 'Pool team on FIFA that has him and Xabi on it and play all night long :fap:
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Posted on 1/10/13 at 4:34 pm to xavierTIGER
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It was all so different four years previous, when the then-Liverpool star scored the winner against Germany in the Euro 2008 final. Perhaps Torres should ask Liverpool if they'll take him back?
Yes as long as it is on Free to 5mm I'm ok with that ... but will not sacrifice what BR & FSG are building for him, no matter how much love I have for .
This post was edited on 1/10/13 at 4:34 pm
Posted on 1/10/13 at 8:33 pm to LSUSOBEAST1
It´s a bit of what he said after landing there.
EPL defenses are shitty, slow, plodding, etc.
They wised up, the league has him to thank for upping their level of play.
He was simply north of ´meh´in Spain when he left (with great, great potential, no doubt, which kept him in the headlines), and he benefitted from the lack of tactical nous in the EPL.
Those days are gone.
Also, Liverpool was a solid side, and Stevie had some amazing passes there.
EPL defenses are shitty, slow, plodding, etc.
They wised up, the league has him to thank for upping their level of play.
He was simply north of ´meh´in Spain when he left (with great, great potential, no doubt, which kept him in the headlines), and he benefitted from the lack of tactical nous in the EPL.
Those days are gone.
Also, Liverpool was a solid side, and Stevie had some amazing passes there.
Posted on 1/10/13 at 8:51 pm to Dandy Lion
Your stupidity knows no bounds. Pray tell how those "shitty, slow, prodding" defenses of the EPL were managing to consistently put multiple teams in the CL semi's and finals?
Posted on 1/10/13 at 8:58 pm to RandySavage
HERE WE GO
Posted on 1/10/13 at 9:02 pm to RandySavage
Many sides which are not champions have done well in the CL, from many leagues. Champions have come during ´meh´league campaigns, and preparing for their CL matches like college football teams do for their bowl.
The ´piss and vinegar´approach to matches (come out like screaming banshees, get up by a goal or two, then bunker), worked very well.
I don´t think the sides you were referring to, had matches against Torres, whilst qualifying.
EPL sides have always had great athletes, capable of heaving up and down the pitch for a much greater part of the match than others.
Shake or stir any or all of the above, your choice, then pour. Your answer is served.
Posted on 1/10/13 at 9:09 pm to Dandy Lion
Some of what you say may be true. But he was the 3rd highest scorer in La Liga a couple seasons before joining Liverpool. Only Ronaldo (24) and Baptista (20) scored more goals than him (19). He also played on a shite club who was only promoted a couple seasons before that I believe. He's only scored 19 in the Prem a single time FWIW.
Posted on 1/10/13 at 9:13 pm to LSUSOBEAST1
quote:No, he played for a perennial mid table side which had a shitty year, were relegated, and promoted the following year.
He also played on a shite club who was only promoted a couple seasons before that I believe.
Posted on 1/10/13 at 9:15 pm to Dandy Lion
Ahh. Gotcha
Posted on 1/10/13 at 9:19 pm to Dandy Lion
To use an analogy from Bho´s world, Torres was a promising thoroughbred, with a steamrolling gazelle stride (contradictory concepts, but applicable in this case), and a modicum of technical proficiency, at that time.
He was the font of much controversy in Spain, he was both loved and loathed, in terms of being a talent or top flight player of superstar calibre.
Barça would have been the logical destination for an Atleti player, but they didn´t want him. Very few go from Manzanares to Chamartín, and vice versa, and Real Madrid definitely had no interest in him. He was an idol at Manzanares, but supported the ´meh´ moniker of many a pundit and fan.
He could not go anywhere else in Spain, and get the wages his agents were commanding.
The most surprised with his initial success on the Isles were the Spanish public at large.
Bho would say he´s no Secretariat, and is one of multiple horses who looked the part, but didn´t pan out.
He was the font of much controversy in Spain, he was both loved and loathed, in terms of being a talent or top flight player of superstar calibre.
Barça would have been the logical destination for an Atleti player, but they didn´t want him. Very few go from Manzanares to Chamartín, and vice versa, and Real Madrid definitely had no interest in him. He was an idol at Manzanares, but supported the ´meh´ moniker of many a pundit and fan.
He could not go anywhere else in Spain, and get the wages his agents were commanding.
The most surprised with his initial success on the Isles were the Spanish public at large.
Bho would say he´s no Secretariat, and is one of multiple horses who looked the part, but didn´t pan out.
This post was edited on 1/10/13 at 9:25 pm
Posted on 1/11/13 at 1:37 am to Dandy Lion
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They wised up, the league has him to thank for upping their level of play.
An especially odd statement since goals in the Prem are at an all-time high. If the league has any one player to thank for causing it to "wise up," it's Henry.
Posted on 1/11/13 at 7:05 am to LSUSOBEAST1
I dont care what anyone says, for those 2 1/2 seasons... He was the best striker in the world... regardless of leagues...
Interesting article, dont know how true it is
Interesting article, dont know how true it is
Posted on 1/11/13 at 7:53 am to TFTC
That statement hurts my head so much.
No bias in this thread at all.
No bias in this thread at all.
Posted on 1/11/13 at 8:46 am to TFTC
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Torres keeps telling his team-mates he'd rather be back at Liverpool and the old guard are fuming... the inside story on how the sun is setting on the era at Chelsea
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The mood around Stamford Bridge is militant again and the executives, along with some of the highest-earning players in world football, are beginning to feel the heat.
On the field the desire and application of Fernando Torres, who was booed off by Chelsea’s supporters when he was replaced by Demba Ba during the Swansea loss, is under scrutiny again.
In training, he appears disinterested and his team-mates have lost count of the number of times he has told them he wishes he was back at Liverpool. Some of the Chelsea players wish he was.
Bring him on back then BR ... we could use another first team striker
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That statement hurts my head so much.
No bias in this thread at all
You might be right no denying that but I think you can hardly argue that his time at Anfield, he was easily top 3-5 strikers in the world.
Posted on 1/11/13 at 9:10 am to McRebel42
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Bring him on back then BR ... we could use another first team striker
Under any other circumstances, I would welcome back Torres... But with the fact that we brought in Sturridge, who sat on the bench behind Torres, I wouldnt do it...
He seems happy and ready to score goals for us... I think that move would deflate him...
Posted on 1/11/13 at 9:32 am to TFTC
I think the three biggest factors in Torres decline are:
1. Lost pace. He's a step slower than he used to be, and a step makes a huge difference. I don't know if it's aging or knee or both or neither, but he's not the burner he used to be.
2. No Gerrard. Stevie just set him up with so many chances. Even if Torres blew one, he knew he'd get more. Which brings me to...
3. Confidence. It's sort of a reiterating loops with Torress of blown chances and lost confidence. His opportunities are fewer and farther between, and it makes it that much more sobering to blow a chance. I think that's why his effort is down, too, because there's no joy in the game for him.
1. Lost pace. He's a step slower than he used to be, and a step makes a huge difference. I don't know if it's aging or knee or both or neither, but he's not the burner he used to be.
2. No Gerrard. Stevie just set him up with so many chances. Even if Torres blew one, he knew he'd get more. Which brings me to...
3. Confidence. It's sort of a reiterating loops with Torress of blown chances and lost confidence. His opportunities are fewer and farther between, and it makes it that much more sobering to blow a chance. I think that's why his effort is down, too, because there's no joy in the game for him.
Posted on 1/11/13 at 9:44 am to Stewie Griffin
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No Gerrard. Stevie just set him up with so many chances.
Oh, that '09 spine of Torres, Stevie, Xabi, Mascherano, Carra, Agger and Pepe... we were so fricking close
Posted on 1/11/13 at 9:56 am to TFTC
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Under any other circumstances, I would welcome back Torres... But with the fact that we brought in Sturridge, who sat on the bench behind Torres, I wouldnt do it...
He seems happy and ready to score goals for us... I think that move would deflate him...
I think I have to agree with you on this ... BUT believe you me if the Torres move happened(given right price & we don't overpay) I would be estatic about it ... no matter what the reprocusions might be ... I just want to see him back in the RED #9
Posted on 1/11/13 at 9:14 pm to LSUSOBEAST1
quote:was a man among boys for a few seasons there, no doubt.
Henry.
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