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SEC Hoops "Pre-Season" is over... Time for SEC play!

Posted on 1/8/13 at 8:23 am
Posted by SouthOfSouth
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2008
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Posted on 1/8/13 at 8:23 am
LSU's Coach Jones has been quoted many times calling the early season, out of conference schedule "Pre-Season". Most of the teams in the SEC wish it was considered pre-season with the way many played. Here I will give a quick update on how everyone has been coming into SEC play. Teams will be listed alphabetically.


Alabama (8-5)
Quality Wins: Oregon St (65-62 Neutral), Villanova (77-55 Neutral)
Bad Losses: Mercer (66-59 Home), Tulane (53-50 Home)

Crimson Tide have been led by Jr Trevor Releford who has been very solid scoring 15.6 per game with a 1.8 ast/to. They have lacked a superior player down low and it shows in their inability to rebound only averaging 33 per game (234th NCAA).


Arkansas (9-4)
Quality Wins: Oklahoma (81-78 Home)
Bad Losses: None

Arkansas had a few tough losses to Wisconsin, Syracuse, and Michigan. Their loss to Arizona St wasnt a bad loss either. They have won using an efficient offense that doesn't turn the ball over and the scoring of BJ Young who averages 17.7 per game.


Auburn (6-7)
Quality Wins: Florida St (78-72 Home)
Bad Losses: Winthrop (74-67 Home), Rhode Island (78-72 Home 2OT)

Auburn has looked much better in their final two "pre-season" games. Barely losing to Illinois in Chicago and beating ACC foe Florida St. Auburn has Sr guard Frankie Sullivan hitting on all cylinders and averaging 17.8 points per game. Their biggest problem has been turnovers and committing too many fouls.


Florida (10-2)
Quality Wins: Wisconsin (74-56 Home), Marquette (82-49 Home), Florida St (72-47 Away)
Bad Losses: None

Florida has been a top 10 team this year and look poised to win the SEC this season. They are lights out on offense and efficient on defense. Led by 2 seniors and 3 juniors the Gators look mature and ready. Their two losses were to Arizona by 1 point away and Kansas State away by 6.


Georgia (6-7)
Quality Wins: None
Bad Losses: Youngstown St (68-56 Home), Iona (81-78 Home OT)

Georgia has lacked much offense. They have a sturdy defense that keeps them in games, but their inability to score in bunches has lost them a few games. They lost to UCLA by only 4, Southern Miss by 2, and Ingiana by only 13.


Kentucky (9-4)
Quality Wins: Maryland (72-69 Neutral)
Bad Losses: None

Kentucky has grown up. With almost an entirely new squad it was given the Wildcats would have some growing pains. After losing at Louisville by only 3, the Cats look prone to challenge the Gators for the SEC. They have length, athleticism, and tons of talent. Even with 4 losses, the Wildcats are in the top couple teams in the conference.


LSU (9-2)
Quality Wins: Seton Hall (72-67 Home)
Bad Losses: None

LSU hasn't been tested as much as some other teams in the SEC, but they have also passed all the games they should have won. LSU lost to Marquette by only 4 after coming back from 21 points down and lost to Boise St in their first road game of the season due to their Achilles heal, foul trouble. The Tigers lead the SEC in steals and put lots of pressure on the ball.


Mississippi St (5-7)
Quality Wins: None
Bad Losses: Troy (56-53 Away), Alabama A&M (59-57 Home), Loyola Chicago (59-51 Away)

Mississippi State is as thin as a team can get. They have been playing 7 players and don't really have anything else. They lack size and offense. They will struggle to win more than a couple in SEC play this year.


Missouri (11-2)
Quality Wins: Stanford (78-70 Neutral), VCU (68-65 Neutral), Illinois (82-73 Neutral), Bucknell (66-64 Home)
Bad Losses: None

Missouri is also poised to challenge Kentucky and Florida for the title in their first year with the SEC. Led by Jr PG Phil Pressey and a group of talented vets, the Tigers get it done by scoring and rebounding. They currently lead the nation with 46.7 rebounds per game.


Ole Miss (11-2)
Quality Wins: Rutgers (80-67 Home)
Bad Losses: None

Ole Miss has done pretty much everything right so far. They lost to a very good Middle Tennessee St team by 3 on the road and a solid Indiana St squad by 2 in OT in Hawaii. Led by the double double machine Murphy Holloway, Ole Miss is the top of the second tier of SEC teams.


South Carolina (10-3)
Quality Wins: None
Bad Losses: Elon (65-53 Home)

South Carolina has been plagued with some injury trouble. They are led by Brenton Williams who averages 13.1 points per game. They have been very successful hitting the offensive boards and average a solid 38.8 rebounds per game.


Tennessee (8-4)
Quality Wins: Wichita St (69-60 Home), Xavier (51-47 Home)
Bad Losses: None

Tennessee has struggled to score at times this season, but they make up for it on defense where they have held opponents to very low scoring totals including 37 to Georgetown, 46 to Virginia, and 47 to Xavier. Tennessee games can look ugly, but they can beat anyone if their shots start to fall.


Texas A&M (10-3)
Quality Wins: Washington St (55-54 Neutral)
Bad Losses: Southern (53-51 Home)

Texas A&M hasn't had to show very much this year. They lost to their two hardest opponents Oklahoma and St Louis. They have struggled to score (231st in NCAA) and rebound (245th in NCAA) which will catch up to them if it cannot be corrected come SEC play.


Vanderbilt (6-6)
Quality Wins: Xavier (66-64 Away OT)
Bad Losses: Marist (50-33 Neutral)

Vanderbilt lost nearly everyone off a very special group last year. The team is young. They are the worst in the SEC in free throw shooting at only 57.9%. Kedren Johnson, the 6'4" sophomore, leads Vanderbilt with 16.6 points per game and 2.7 assists per game. They average less than 60 points per game and have scored under 50 3 times already in "Pre-Season".


SEC "Pre-Season" Rankings


Season Prediction:
LSU will make it to 9-9 in the SEC, maybe 10-8 and end up 5th or 6th in the SEC. Probably won't be good enough for the NCAA tournament sitting at 18-19 wins total (really wish we had all 13 OOC games). It would be a great step in the right direction. I'd say barring any major injuries the Tigers should end up between 7 and 11 wins in the SEC.
This post was edited on 1/8/13 at 8:52 am
Posted by Tigerfan19
Member since Mar 2004
2118 posts
Posted on 1/8/13 at 8:30 am to
Would be key to get a road W tomorrow to start off the sec schedule!
Posted by SouthOfSouth
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2008
43456 posts
Posted on 1/8/13 at 8:38 am to
quote:

Would be key to get a road W tomorrow to start off the sec schedule!


Always big to get a W on the road. It would be a great way to start the SEC play. I don't see us beating Florida, so we need a road victory to counter the home loss.
Posted by Tigerfan19
Member since Mar 2004
2118 posts
Posted on 1/8/13 at 8:39 am to
Yeah losing two in a row would not be a great way to start...I'm heading in from Houston will be at the PMac on Saturday can't wait hopefully with a win tomorrow it will be packed!
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98123 posts
Posted on 1/8/13 at 8:39 am to
Don't expect this thread to go very far, the Rantards would rather schlob Saban's knob. But
Posted by TigerCub
Team Boxtard
Member since May 2006
20167 posts
Posted on 1/8/13 at 8:44 am to
I notice you left out South Carolina in your original post. Are they one of the weaker SEC teams this year?
Posted by SouthOfSouth
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2008
43456 posts
Posted on 1/8/13 at 8:53 am to
quote:

I notice you left out South Carolina in your original post. Are they one of the weaker SEC teams this year?


Completely unintentional and it has been fixed.
Posted by SouthOfSouth
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2008
43456 posts
Posted on 1/8/13 at 8:54 am to
quote:

Don't expect this thread to go very far, the Rantards would rather schlob Saban's knob.


Im really hoping Tiger fans get over this football season and look forward to basketball and baseball this spring. This place will be tough to hang around if it stays so negative.
Posted by b-rab2
N. Louisiana
Member since Dec 2005
12575 posts
Posted on 1/8/13 at 8:55 am to
I'm excited for SEC play. Got to watch them against Bethune the other day and they are fun to watch.
Posted by slutiger5
Parroquias de Florida
Member since May 2007
10624 posts
Posted on 1/8/13 at 8:59 am to
I thought the Marquette loss was bad, bassed off them being a weaker Big East team this year. We needed that win more than the Boise st. IMO.
Posted by SouthOfSouth
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2008
43456 posts
Posted on 1/8/13 at 9:02 am to
quote:

I thought the Marquette loss was bad, bassed off them being a weaker Big East team this year. We needed that win more than the Boise st. IMO.


Marquette has recently beat UCONN and Georgetown to start Big East play 2-0. They are currently getting votes in the AP and Coaches polls.

I used quality wins and bad losses as meaning inside the top 100. Which is normally pretty normal for "quality wins" and bad losses those to teams outside the top 100 is pretty normal.
This post was edited on 1/8/13 at 9:04 am
Posted by slutiger5
Parroquias de Florida
Member since May 2007
10624 posts
Posted on 1/8/13 at 9:17 am to
Yeah i knew exactly what you meant. But the way marquette started the season, they were weak at the time. Im not dogging your picks. That was just one of those losses we gave away.
This post was edited on 1/8/13 at 9:20 am
Posted by robg1124
New Orleans, LA
Member since Aug 2006
283 posts
Posted on 1/8/13 at 9:19 am to
Why didn't we play the full 13 OOC games South?
Posted by SouthOfSouth
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2008
43456 posts
Posted on 1/8/13 at 9:30 am to
quote:

Why didn't we play the full 13 OOC games South?


Honestly, sloppy scheduling by Trent I'd imagine. There is no reason otherwise to only play 11 OOC games when you can play up to 13 (in SEC). Very frustrating.
Posted by SouthOfSouth
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2008
43456 posts
Posted on 1/8/13 at 9:32 am to
quote:

Im not dogging your picks. That was just one of those losses we gave away.


Certainly understand that. And I don't mind opposition to anything I say. Just trying to get some basketball talk here.

We had a good shot at that game, but I wanted people to know it was not a bad loss. Marquette is a solid squad that LSU played a very competitive game against. Stop them from going on that big run in the early part of the game and LSU has a great shot at that one.
This post was edited on 1/8/13 at 9:33 am
Posted by Tom Bronco
Austin, TX
Member since Jun 2011
2650 posts
Posted on 1/8/13 at 9:46 am to
I guess the bad losses caught my eye more than the good wins and I was getting excited when so many SEC teams were getting upset. Reading what you have written and some research I have done on my own puts that to rest pretty quick.

The SEC will be as tough as ever, especially when it comes to road games. I thought Auburn was going to be an easy win until I watched the game at their place last year on Geaux Zone and then looked at their roster this year. They have almost their whole team back and they are juniors and seniors.

As you pointed out Sullivan is a good player for them but if he is cold they have 3 or 4 other guards that played against us last year and scored. Chubb their 6'10" center may also be a factor. While not a great player he is a senior veteran who could make Andrew look bad, physically dominate Coleman and hold his own against a JOB who is not 100%.
Posted by FamousAmos
Member since Feb 2010
3276 posts
Posted on 1/8/13 at 9:51 am to
Great breakdown as always. Mind if I plug this on the SEC rant?
Posted by SouthOfSouth
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2008
43456 posts
Posted on 1/8/13 at 9:52 am to
quote:

I guess the bad losses caught my eye more than the good wins and I was getting excited when so many SEC teams were getting upset. Reading what you have written and some research I have done on my own puts that to rest pretty quick.

The SEC will be as tough as ever, especially when it comes to road games. I thought Auburn was going to be an easy win until I watched the game at their place last year on Geaux Zone and then looked at their roster this year. They have almost their whole team back and they are juniors and seniors.




Most coaches are saying the same. It's not really fair to call the conference down at this point. Unfortunately, there is no OOC games left to prove ourselves as a conference so it will have to be proven in the post season. SEC should get 4 or 5 in and a few more into the NIT.

quote:

As you pointed out Sullivan is a good player for them but if he is cold they have 3 or 4 other guards that played against us last year and scored. Chubb their 6'10" center may also be a factor. While not a great player he is a senior veteran who could make Andrew look bad, physically dominate Coleman and hold his own against a JOB who is not 100%.


Auburn has a good squad on the good nights. Many people are blaming their struggles on coaching. I am not going to say why, but it is obvious looking at their schedule that they struggle some nights and are very tough on others.

For LSU to win this game, it will take a great effort from LSU and less than stellar play by Auburn.
Posted by SouthOfSouth
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2008
43456 posts
Posted on 1/8/13 at 9:53 am to
quote:

Great breakdown as always. Mind if I plug this on the SEC rant?


Course not. You can LINK if you want or copy paste.
This post was edited on 1/8/13 at 9:54 am
Posted by MsGarrison
Steele Town LOL
Member since Nov 2009
22009 posts
Posted on 1/8/13 at 10:02 am to
Whats ur prediction for tomorrows game
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