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re: Official Downton Abbey Season 3 Discussion
Posted on 2/18/13 at 2:20 pm to BigAppleTiger
Posted on 2/18/13 at 2:20 pm to BigAppleTiger
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my first thought was "I hope the car is okay".
That was a beautiful car.
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Posted on 2/18/13 at 2:30 pm to Interception
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Why not just have Matthew mysteriously disappear and write it in later? Have him write letters to Marry or Robert explaining his distant situation? Do a storyline about anything/ something but don't kill his character. The fans would have held Stevens in higher regard and it would have possibly allowed for a dramatic return a few seasons down the line if Stevens decided to return?
Exactly.
I keep comparing this to Shelley Long leaving Cheers because the two decisions to leave seem similar to me, but the writers didn't have her slip on some beer spill on the floor and hit her head on the bar and die. They wrote her off in a way that fit her character's ambitions completely. It turned out to be one of the show's shining moments.
This is Downton's worst moment. You can't ever treat your audience like they are stupid if you are a writer and that is what this felt like.
Posted on 2/18/13 at 2:58 pm to DallasTiger11
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This is Downton's worst moment. You can't ever treat your audience like they are stupid if you are a writer and that is what this felt like.
Yea, it was something my wife and I could watch together and enjoy. After last night, I don't think she is interested in watching it any more. Had to be a better way of handling the situation with Stevens.
Posted on 2/18/13 at 4:41 pm to DallasTiger11
quote:My sentiments exactly. DA is rapidly becoming a downer show, instead of something to look forward to every episode. This was poor writing, poor planning, and just plain poor television. It's almost as if having a baby is becoming like deadly a curse on the Grantham family. I expected more from them than this.
...they should have NEVER killed Sybil right after she had her baby if they knew they were going to kill Matthew RIGHT after Mary had his. The juxtaposition here just flat out did not work
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Posted on 2/18/13 at 4:46 pm to Ash Williams
quote:That would work and keep some kind of continuity going, instead of this totally contrived and flimsy fatal traffic accident. I would expect that kind of play writing from a middle schooler.
ideally, he wouldve been called to india because one of the other "heirs" may have popped back up and he wouldve had to spend a lot of time there.
He wouldve cleared up the heir situation in that the person india was an impostor and the money was indeed matthew's, and then if the actor decided no matter what he wasnt coming back, matthew dies of some disease or elephant stomping in india, if the actor decides "you know what, i made a stupid decision," he comes back for season 5.
Posted on 2/18/13 at 4:50 pm to otowntiger
quote:Many moons ago, it worked for Bewitched. I realize these two shows are almost polar opposites, but it can work if the writing is top notch. Oh, wait...
I think they should have entertained replacing the actor and retaining the character if possible.
No, that never works.
Posted on 2/18/13 at 4:51 pm to JawjaTigah
It was complete bullshite. I just started watching this season. After seeing Lady Sybil die, I said I have to start this from the beginning. So I quit watching season 3 and watched every episode in 3 weeks. Just in time for last night's finale and this is how I'm rewarded. 3 weeks of nonstop watching to be shite on. . .how do you kill 2 of the 3 best characters upstairs in 1 season?
As soon as he was driving I knew it was coming. I had to get up and walk out of the room. It was like watching the last 60 seconds of Les Miles football. I'll keep watching DA, but I'll be damned if it didn't take a bit of the joy out of it. Just careless IMO.
As soon as he was driving I knew it was coming. I had to get up and walk out of the room. It was like watching the last 60 seconds of Les Miles football. I'll keep watching DA, but I'll be damned if it didn't take a bit of the joy out of it. Just careless IMO.
This post was edited on 2/18/13 at 4:55 pm
Posted on 2/18/13 at 4:59 pm to BrentED
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It was like watching the last 60 seconds of Les Miles football.
Painful but it's been kinda true. 
Posted on 2/18/13 at 5:52 pm to davesdawgs
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By design. It's common roller coaster character development for characters to overcome character flaws; you hate them and then they redeem themselves.
The Pete Campbell syndrome
Posted on 2/18/13 at 8:08 pm to busbeepbeep
Keep in mind, the episode we saw last night was shown over Christmas, several months separating view dates from the rest of the series.....and the Christmas episode takes place a year later .....they put it as a subtitle at the beginning of the episode
Posted on 2/19/13 at 3:15 pm to busbeepbeep
So that lil b**ch did spoil the ending, I was hoping he was just being an idiot and not a douche.
I read after the show was over though that he wanted to be written off. Had too busy of a schedule, was moving to NY, just had a second baby ect. Still, its the most successful show you'll ever be on, dont leave that early.
For the first time ever, for me, Thomas had a redeeming moment.
I read after the show was over though that he wanted to be written off. Had too busy of a schedule, was moving to NY, just had a second baby ect. Still, its the most successful show you'll ever be on, dont leave that early.
For the first time ever, for me, Thomas had a redeeming moment.
Posted on 2/19/13 at 3:29 pm to iwyLSUiwy
I really don't see what choice the writers had. If he wouldn't return there was only one place for the story to go. Having him disappear would have been stupid.
Posted on 2/19/13 at 3:32 pm to arktiger28
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I really don't see what choice the writers had. If he wouldn't return there was only one place for the story to go. Having him disappear would have been stupid.
Agree it would have been totally out of character.
Posted on 2/19/13 at 3:39 pm to arktiger28
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I really don't see what choice the writers had. If he wouldn't return there was only one place for the story to go. Having him disappear would have been stupid.
I agree. Look, I still like this show, but it went from a character study to a soap opera in season 2. This ending is just in keeping with that turn. Who knows, maybe the actor will have a change of heart and can come back in season 5 with it all having been a dream.
I just find the criticism of soap opera writing funny considering this show is a soap opera.
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