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Short Sold A Spread 2 Years Ago, When Can I Refinance My "New" Mortgage?

Posted on 1/5/13 at 8:57 pm
Posted by BananaHammock
Member since Aug 2011
13150 posts
Posted on 1/5/13 at 8:57 pm
I gave my old house to the bank 2 years ago, right after buying a new one.

Bought new spread in June 2010, quit making payments on old house the second the new loan closed.

Old house didn't close until December 2010.

I have a 5% 30 year loan on the new house that I'd like to refi into a 20 year loan in the threes. When will I be able to do this? I've heard "3 years from the date of the short sale" a while back.

Thanks in advance for any advice.

:inb4youareapieceofshitforbuyingandbailing:
Posted by ATL TGR
Houston
Member since Apr 2008
2878 posts
Posted on 1/5/13 at 9:02 pm to
quote:

:inb4youareapieceofshitforbuyingandbailing:


Well. You are.
Posted by BananaHammock
Member since Aug 2011
13150 posts
Posted on 1/5/13 at 9:13 pm to
Because holding onto a property after it drops 45% in value is "the right thing to do"? Not a single business on the planet would hold on to a toilet bowl of an asset (or liability, however you choose to categorize a house). FWIW, I lost my $120K downpayment and 5 years of mortgage payments ($3K x 60 months = $180K), so it's not like I came out unscathed or didn't put anything into the system.

Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 1/5/13 at 9:35 pm to
quote:

I lost my $120K downpayment and 5 years of mortgage payments


The market value of the property may have dropped by that much but that has nothing to do with what you paid in, or your decision to bail.

But to answer your original question, go talk with a lender. They'll tell you whether you qualify and under what terms. Simple as that.
Posted by rmc
Truth or Consequences
Member since Sep 2004
26470 posts
Posted on 1/5/13 at 9:42 pm to
quote:

Well. You are.


No he's not. His lender made a decision to cut their loses. It was a mutual decision.
Posted by BananaHammock
Member since Aug 2011
13150 posts
Posted on 1/5/13 at 9:49 pm to
quote:

go talk with a lender

Yeah, looks like that is the best option. I dread talking to lenders or anyone in the real estate business. Never had a positive experience yet (4 out of 4).
Posted by ItNeverRains
37069
Member since Oct 2007
25363 posts
Posted on 1/6/13 at 7:27 am to
Think it's 3 years, but again, talk to lender
Posted by Tiger4Ever
Member since Aug 2003
36702 posts
Posted on 1/6/13 at 9:15 am to
FWIW, that isn't a short sale...it sounds like a dation en paiement if the property was turned over directly to the bank in lieu of payment.
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35462 posts
Posted on 1/6/13 at 11:01 am to
Yeah, not making payments for 6 months and then turning the house over is more like a foreclosure. In a short sale there is actually a buyer to purchase the property at a lower price than the loan balance.

OP is going to have to wait more than 3 years. More like 7.

To the OP. Aren't you the guy in the Christmas presents thread that was bragging about bringing home $350k a year? But you walk away from a commitment instead of working something out? Tells me a lot.
This post was edited on 1/6/13 at 11:04 am
Posted by BananaHammock
Member since Aug 2011
13150 posts
Posted on 1/6/13 at 12:31 pm to
It was a short sale in lue of foreclosure and a smart money move to make after over a year of attempting to work things out with the lender. They said I made too much to adjust my principle or lower the interest rate, so I gave them their precious house back. Everything was 100% legal and it came with consequences. I mean, my credit score went from 810 down to 690 because of this.
Posted by bigblake
Member since Jun 2011
2498 posts
Posted on 1/6/13 at 12:44 pm to
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This post was edited on 4/6/13 at 1:07 pm
Posted by BananaHammock
Member since Aug 2011
13150 posts
Posted on 1/6/13 at 12:52 pm to
Dude, I hear you - I had an unpaid medical bill for $21 that lowered mine 80 points for years. Having moved around that time, I never got the bill. It took years to clear that up.

I expected it to drop to the 500s after the short sale. The consequences of giving a house back to the lender are not nearly strong enough in my state.
Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
27813 posts
Posted on 1/6/13 at 1:08 pm to
Did you have to pay taxes on the gain from the short sale?
Posted by Tiger4Ever
Member since Aug 2003
36702 posts
Posted on 1/6/13 at 1:43 pm to
If the property ended up in the possession of the bank/mortgage company, then it wasn't a short sale.
This post was edited on 1/6/13 at 1:45 pm
Posted by BananaHammock
Member since Aug 2011
13150 posts
Posted on 1/6/13 at 5:39 pm to
It was a short sale, not a foreclosure. Hey-sues Christeaux folks. Two people with different last names bought it for and even $400K, $311K lower than I had bought it for only 5 years prior. I had to sign a shitload of papers "accepting" their offer; however, mentally I had already "given the property back to the bank". Sorry for the misleading, minced words.

No taxes on the short sale gain had to be paid. There was a law passed in the 2008 bail-out mess that waived that for 2 years. It was extended into 2010 and I recall ing over the extension.
Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
27813 posts
Posted on 1/6/13 at 6:45 pm to
Well you're welcome for the bailout.
Posted by saving$
Member since Nov 2012
34 posts
Posted on 1/6/13 at 6:54 pm to
quote:

Well you're welcome for the bailout.



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