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Should Local & State Reps Have Lobbied for On-Campus CFB Playoffs?
Posted on 1/4/13 at 8:48 am
Posted on 1/4/13 at 8:48 am
Posted this on the SECr yesterday but no one paid attention, so thought I would give it a try on the MSB
Pro-sports attendance in down across the board and yet CFB new system will expect fans to travel during the regular season and to several different sites for playoffs thus taking revenue away from the Universities and the cities/states that they are located in.
Take Alabama for example. What would the economic impact be for Tuscaloosa and Auburn if both were in the playoffs? According to this article from July 2012, Alabama and Auburn had an estimated economic impact of 500 million in 2011. Why let the additional revenue of on-campus playoffs completely leave one of the poorest states in the country?
If the Universities were unwilling to advocate for on-campus playoffs, why didn’t the local and state governments intercede? Would you have supported their efforts if they had?
Pro-sports attendance in down across the board and yet CFB new system will expect fans to travel during the regular season and to several different sites for playoffs thus taking revenue away from the Universities and the cities/states that they are located in.
Take Alabama for example. What would the economic impact be for Tuscaloosa and Auburn if both were in the playoffs? According to this article from July 2012, Alabama and Auburn had an estimated economic impact of 500 million in 2011. Why let the additional revenue of on-campus playoffs completely leave one of the poorest states in the country?
If the Universities were unwilling to advocate for on-campus playoffs, why didn’t the local and state governments intercede? Would you have supported their efforts if they had?
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Posted on 1/4/13 at 8:50 am to undecided
I agree, but Bama and AU won't be in the playoffs together. Unless there is a schedule change.
Posted on 1/4/13 at 8:50 am to undecided
this is a ticking time bomb of inequality that would materialize and the admins know it
there is a huge divide in budgets of the haves and have nots
within the haves, you'll see a further divide in budgets
just think about how much more money bama would have made compared to the rest of the SEC the past 4 years
there is a huge divide in budgets of the haves and have nots
within the haves, you'll see a further divide in budgets
just think about how much more money bama would have made compared to the rest of the SEC the past 4 years
Posted on 1/4/13 at 8:50 am to undecided
Eventually but not at first. The bowls and host cities would have thrown an even bigger shitfit if they lost the revenue. Easier to establish playoffs before taking away the games.
Posted on 1/4/13 at 8:57 am to JJ27
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Eventually but not at first. The bowls and host cities would have thrown an even bigger shitfit if they lost the revenue. Easier to establish playoffs before taking away the games.
Compromise would be to use the on-campus playoffs to seed the Bowl games that way everybody makes money. Schools are currenly being shafted for Bowl games in having to buy tickets, travel expenses, ect. The only people currenly profitting are the Bowls.
I also think this argument could be made for the empty B-ball tournements that are held. It looks awful on tv and it seems like an even bigger waste of money
Posted on 1/4/13 at 8:59 am to crimsonian
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but Bama and AU won't be in the playoffs together
The same way LSU and Bama wouldnt play each other twice in would season? Anything is possible.
Posted on 1/4/13 at 9:00 am to JJ27
On campus playoffs are the only thing that makes sense.......seriously, how many people will attend a playoff game, only to turn around the following week and travel to the championship destination?
So theoretically you could have LSU traveling to Miami, winning that game, and then playing in Los Angeles the following week for the championship.
If you took your family to the game, you could easily be looking at $10K+ to do this.
I know some fans will attend both, but you could be looking at more empty stadiums like what is currently happening with the BCS games.
So theoretically you could have LSU traveling to Miami, winning that game, and then playing in Los Angeles the following week for the championship.
If you took your family to the game, you could easily be looking at $10K+ to do this.
I know some fans will attend both, but you could be looking at more empty stadiums like what is currently happening with the BCS games.
Posted on 1/4/13 at 9:03 am to undecided
What happen when a team like Oregon St ends up hosting a playoff game in a 45K seat stadium? That's a ton of revenue left on the table for everyone involved. '
I doubt you'll have attendance issues at all for the playoff games. There's certainly no chance that it will be worse than some of the current BCS games.
I doubt you'll have attendance issues at all for the playoff games. There's certainly no chance that it will be worse than some of the current BCS games.
Posted on 1/4/13 at 9:03 am to undecided
I think the Pac 12 game is hosted/run by the conference and they divide up that cash. I wish they could do it like that. I am all for on-campus in the first round of 4/8. So some cities get a bigger economic benefit than others. Big deal. That said, there would be some serious monkey business for seeding, but you're going to have that for the selection process,anyway.
On edit, once the TV cash rolls in, I don't think anyone will care much about empty stadiums.
On edit, once the TV cash rolls in, I don't think anyone will care much about empty stadiums.
This post was edited on 1/4/13 at 9:06 am
Posted on 1/4/13 at 9:08 am to Bunk Moreland
i'm still wondering how they're going to divide up the playoff money. i don't think it's been set yet (i could be wrong)
Posted on 1/4/13 at 9:08 am to undecided
Doesnt matter, there is too much money in CFB right now and the people who have access to it and the people who make it will never let this shite happen.
Posted on 1/4/13 at 9:12 am to undecided
Bama and LSU didn't play in the last game of the regular season. Not going to happen with 4 playoff teams.
Posted on 1/4/13 at 9:19 am to crimsonian
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Bama and LSU didn't play in the last game of the regular season. Not going to happen with 4 playoff teams
The Iron Bowl loser may be the top one loss team in the country.
Posted on 1/4/13 at 9:34 am to Master of Sinanju
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The Iron Bowl loser may be the top one loss team in the country.
This
Also the 45,000 on-campus stadium argument is void when you consider that may be the amount of people that show up for the playoff games in places like L.A., Miami, and Glendale which are unaffordable for the average fan especially within the same month.
My arguement is, why would I want Auburn to generate millions of dollars in revenue for New Orleans when I can keep that money in Auburn and the surrounding areas?
Posted on 1/4/13 at 9:35 am to undecided
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My arguement is, why would I want Auburn to generate millions of dollars in revenue for New Orleans when I can keep that money in Auburn and the surrounding areas?
on the flip side, why would a team from your conference not in the playoffs want to give you an extra home game's revenue?
Posted on 1/4/13 at 9:55 am to SlowFlowPro
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on the flip side, why would a team from your conference not in the playoffs want to give you an extra home game's revenue?
That's kinda a moot point if those teams fail to make the playoff. Win and your in
Furthermore, still using Auburn as an example, our proximity to Georgia means that some people would stay in Columbus or some in Montgomery. Also, I'm sure Birmingham and Atlanta would benefit from people flying in from the visiting school. This extends the economic impact across state lines.
Posted on 1/4/13 at 9:58 am to undecided
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That's kinda a moot point if those teams fail to make the playoff. Win and your in
not really. it's a very big issue that may allow the rich to get richer
if we're talking Bama/LSU/UF then it's a "wait for your year" thing but what about Arky/UTenn/Auburn, who will struggle to win a title anytime soon? they're going to just get further and further behind in revenue
Posted on 1/4/13 at 10:00 am to undecided
When it goes above 4 teams, the first round will be on campus
Posted on 1/4/13 at 10:08 am to SlowFlowPro
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if we're talking Bama/LSU/UF then it's a "wait for your year" thing but what about Arky/UTenn/Auburn, who will struggle to win a title anytime soon? they're going to just get further and further behind in revenue
Auburn has 2 undefeated season, 2 SEC championships, 1 NC, and 1 Heisman winner within the last 10 years. Seems like we're doing okay
This system would probably benefit the smaller schools the most because they are getting revenue and exposure on a national stage
This post was edited on 1/4/13 at 10:13 am
Posted on 1/4/13 at 10:14 am to Master of Sinanju
Please tell me the last time going into the bowl season that Bama and AU were in the top 4. I will hang up and listen.
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