re: The LSU / Les Miles TV dramedy continues....

Which programs win more per dollar spent?

Elite?

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show me one post where i've said i was "content" with the offensive performance.

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How long has the offense been offensive (go look at the rankings)?
You're a big-time known supporter of the head honcho.
What has he done to fix these issues in the past 5 yrs?
If you are frustrated/not content with the performance of the offense now, where were you the past 5 yrs?
Why is it so hard to see that a large portion of fans have seen this offensive ineptitude for years and feel like we're squandering away great opportunities b/c Miles has refused to make adjustments?

Lastly, if Miles makes no changes to the offense, will your view of him change?

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What has he done to fix these issues in the past 5 yrs?

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fired the old OC and hired a new one.....who happened to get sick and as far as we know is unable to perform all of the duties he was hired to do.

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If you are frustrated/not content with the performance of the offense now, where were you the past 5 yrs?

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the same place i am now. i have no power over the hiring and firing processes of the LSU football program.

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Why is it so hard to see that a large portion of fans have seen this offensive ineptitude for years and feel like we're squandering away great opportunities b/c Miles has refused to make adjustments?

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But Miles has made adjustments. the new OC has been here a total of two years.

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Lastly, if Miles makes no changes to the offense, will your view of him change?

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i'll wait to see how next season unfolds.....but probably not.

who is GG for crying out loud?

So who, with your set of standards, contends every year?


Also, answer my question about dollar amount spent per win, please. Who does it better?

For all the bitching about his salary, Miles wins more than comparably payed coaches.

Hahahaha hahahha!!!
THAT'S contending?

I guess "contending" changes every year for all programs, huh.

You make a terrible case for what should be considered elite.

By your previously posted definition of contention you stated it has to be every year.
Who plays for a title every year?
Even this board's precious Bama doesn't do that.

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If your view of the head man remains the same when he makes no changes that, by definition, is being content.

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not necessarily

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Being content with B/B+ performance doesn't make you wrong. It simply makes your expectations different from many others.

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my expectations are the same as most...i just choose not to bitch about it incessantly

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prplngldtigr

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I'm going to jump into this fray with my two cents because I'm not solidly in the "We're a perfect program, everything is fine" camp, and I'm not solidly in the "Miles is a complete buffoon in all aspects" camp either. Hopefully you can respond without getting too defensive.

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2009 LSU was #4 going into an October 10th matchup with #1 Florida.

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...and completely shite the bed on offense because of the same old, same old. Stubbornness, lack of ingenuity and putrid QB play. We scored three points.

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2010 LSU was #6 going into an October 23rd matchup with #5 Auburn

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...and even though Cam Newton was phenomenal, we still had an opportunity to win that game. On our last drive, the QB and receiver weren't even on the same page and a J. Lee pass fluttered out of bounds untouched on 4th down. Game over.

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2011 LSU ended the regular season # 1 before losing in the National Title game.

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...see response #1. Zero points. At some point in the game, when it seems impossible to even get a measly first down, you have to try something, ANYTHING different to bring life. Personnel, playcalling, I don't care. But we stuck with same old, same old...

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this year we were in contention until a last second loss in November.

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...and were in complete control in the second half. Only needed one first down to seal the deal. We call a fullback dive on 3rd down when the short passing game had them off balance all night. Not even a halfback dive or off tackle. A fullback dive on the biggest playcall of the year.

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Losing to a higher ranked team late in the season, in games that could have gone either way.

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Several of those games were not in the balance because it was painfully clear our offense was not going to generate any points. But we kept trying the same thing over and over and over.

Look, I think our program is an elite one. If that's your only argument, fine. I capitulate.

But if you don't think there's room for VAST improvement on the field due to offensive ineptitude, and that the program could actually strive for another level, then I vehemently disagree. Actually contending for championships year in and year out will require a complete revamping of this whole offensive system, and Les Miles just refuses to admit that there's anything wrong in the first place.

We could be where Alabama is today, going for 3 out of 4. That's the most infuriating part to me. Why some on here think Miles and the offensive decisions are above criticism is the eighth wonder of the world.

I understand your frustration and I agree that improvement is needed.

Yes, my main argument was that LSU IS an elite program.

My frustration with many LSU fans stems from their doom and gloom, lack of reality, sky is falling mentality.

I cannot and will not identify with these types of "fans".
I know what the sky falling looks like and this ain't it by a long shot.

As far as me being "defensive"...I'm presenting reality and not panicking like the OP and so many "fans".