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re: Just so people realize, IT AINT STUD's Offense

Posted on 1/4/13 at 5:36 pm to
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 1/4/13 at 5:36 pm to
15 of his losses are from the last 5 seasons. An average of 3 losses a year. Are you cool with that? Or would you rather 7 losses over 5 seasons.

One is sitting at the dinner table, the other is eating crumbs.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46614 posts
Posted on 1/4/13 at 5:37 pm to
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Miles has a history of inconsistant play. His teams are nortorious for playing down to teams. ( Towson, La Tech, idaho, etc) and has a bad habit of playing not to lose, rather than playing to win.( Tenn on monday




I guess I'm a glass half full guy. I see that Miles' teams have a habit of destroying OOC teams. Like Ohio st, Miami, va tech , Oregon , west va, Notre dame, Washington, Arizona bit that doesn't for your argument of Miles being a shitty coach.
Honestly, How many times has Miles LOST A GAME HE SHOULD'VE WON? Really?
This post was edited on 1/4/13 at 5:39 pm
Posted by TigerDen
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2005
1343 posts
Posted on 1/4/13 at 5:39 pm to
Thats right.

It isn't STUD.

There is this retard (pronounced RU-TARD, like in the Hangover) who runs the offense.

He has 2 monkeys who give a thumbs up and down on each play. When the monkeys give the same sign, he just wings it.
This post was edited on 1/4/13 at 5:40 pm
Posted by TigerB8
End Communism
Member since Oct 2003
9205 posts
Posted on 1/4/13 at 5:40 pm to
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It's common knowledge that sustaining a powerhouse program is harder than building one. Period.


It is???? did you get this straight from "Coaching Big Time College Football for Dummy's"?
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 1/4/13 at 5:42 pm to
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How many times has Miles LOST A GAME HE SHOULD'VE WON?


great coaches win the games that are toss-ups or they are supposed to lose.

YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO BEAT THE TEAMS YOU'RE FAVORED AGAINST.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46614 posts
Posted on 1/4/13 at 5:43 pm to
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Nice stat. Miles is sitting on 80% in 8 years in the SEC, Saban is sitting on 79% in 12 years in the SEC. Just for kicks, in the last 6 years since Saban went to Alabama his winning percentage is 82% and Miles is 78%



Look. Posters need to stop saying SABAN> MILES and start saying SABAN> ALL 119 DIV1 COACHES, because that's the truth and some of you can't live with it. No, MILES OSNT BETTER THAN SABAN, but neither are the other 119 coaches. Although MILES has the second most wins against Saban in the SEC and MILES IS 3-1 in BRYANT DENNY.
Posted by Kunka
Member since Dec 2010
394 posts
Posted on 1/4/13 at 5:47 pm to
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It's common knowledge that sustaining a powerhouse program is harder than building one. Period.


According to whom? You're not a football coach. You have no clue. Both are hard to do one is not "harder" than another. If anything I would say that as a coach myself that building a powerful program is harder than sustaining.

It's not incredibly hard to sustain success at LSU when you have the incredible resources you have as a head coach at your disposal that are 2nd to no one in America. Majority of schools in America don't have the resources and opportunity to have success as LSU does. There is no excuse at all that LSU shouldn't be an elite Top 5 program in America year in and year out.

Whole lot easier to have an opportunity at great success when you inherit a program that just spent over 200 million dollars to give you the best facilities in America and 1 year removed from winning a National Championship and a roster stock piled with the best talent in College Football.

Saban inherited nothing close to that when he hired on at LSU. Had Saban stayed at LSU then we would be the toast of college football like Alabama is right now.

This post was edited on 1/4/13 at 5:51 pm
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46614 posts
Posted on 1/4/13 at 5:50 pm to
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Actually I have been coaching football longer than you've probably been alive and no one on this board is more in tune with LSU's football history and what goes on around the program than myself.


The manner in which you post , concerning LSU's head coach, proves otherwise. The people that make decisions at LSU, LOVE MILES and they recognize how hard it is to win 10 games year in and year out in the HARDEST DIVISION , IN THE HARDEST CONFERENCE. They see that Miles ranks second in graduation rate. They see that Miles put the programs integrity before wins, by kicking off a Heisman finalist and the biggest defensive playmaker in CFB, yet still being able to win, despite putting integrity first. They see that LSU lost 8 starters since the spring game. They see that LSU played the second most freshmen in the ENTIRE CFB LANDSCAPE and STILL WON 10 games IN THE HARDEST DIVISION , IN THE HARDEST CONFERENCE.

no they know LSU is winning on talent alone and any dumbass could come to LSU and win 10 games. Hell LSU recruits itself.
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
57212 posts
Posted on 1/4/13 at 5:56 pm to
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IN THE HARDEST DIVISION , IN THE HARDEST CONFERENCE.


The FIVE SEC teams with a better record than us are a combined 57-9.

The top 7 teams have a combined record of 76-16.

The bottom 7 teams have a combined record of: 33-52
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68313 posts
Posted on 1/4/13 at 5:58 pm to
this isnt rue at all
Posted by Kunka
Member since Dec 2010
394 posts
Posted on 1/4/13 at 5:58 pm to
Thanks I see all those things too but that still has nothing to do with anything I've said. Miles record stands for itself but his putrid offense speaks for itself. I'm not a sunshine Miles pumper like you. I'm a football coach and an offensive one to boot and what I see from LSU offensively is an absolute joke. Les Miles is the singular reason holding LSU back from being a great offensive football team year in and year out.


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they know LSU is winning on talent alone and any dumbass could come to LSU and win 10 games. Hell LSU recruits itself


Hmm.... interesting.... if you feel that way then maybe you are brighter than I gave you credit for.
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68313 posts
Posted on 1/4/13 at 5:59 pm to
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I dont know what youre talking about. Im telling you exactly how it is and what I know from my sources close to the team. Thats all. Believe it if you like or flame...either way


Have you actually ever attended practices?
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
57212 posts
Posted on 1/4/13 at 6:00 pm to
Also

Top 7 SEC record: 44-12
Bottom 7 SEC record: 12-44

add 3-4 rent a wins and the top half of the SEC is almost a lock for 10 wins.
Posted by XBOXLSU
Member since Jan 2013
14 posts
Posted on 1/4/13 at 6:31 pm to
Well hell I know ex players college and pros..oh crap I also know ex COACHES and current COACHES. I know what goes on in game planning. The problem is the HEAD COACH throws it out the freaking window and calls HIS GAME.
Let me put it this way so you can understand
Your brain is the OC and the little guy on your shoulder is MILES.
your choices...
A. A woman in front of you wanting you(SCORE OR FIRST DOWN WITH PASS)
OR
B. A MAN in front of you ready for you to go down on him(run up gut,get stuffed and PUNT)
The OC(your brain)is saying A go for A its wide open. BUT.... The little guy on your shoulder(MILES)IS SCREAMING "GEAUX B!!!!
Don't worry I know what YOU,Jakedel12,and his OG friend and MILES would do....B freaking B!
Posted by Lonnie4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
9525 posts
Posted on 1/4/13 at 6:43 pm to
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with Miles hands completely off what LSU does offensively.


Well, since he's the HC, good luck with that.

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
259594 posts
Posted on 1/4/13 at 6:44 pm to
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add 3-4 rent a wins and the top half of the SEC is almost a lock for 10 wins.



It's hard to do every year but yeah, win 6 of 8 conference games and you should easily have 10 wins a year.

If LSU beats who they are supposed to beat, 10 wins is within sight every year. I give Miles credit for putting LSU in that position, but winning 10 games for a team of LSU's talent isn't awesome. It's about where they should be.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46614 posts
Posted on 1/4/13 at 6:51 pm to
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What you need ask your self is what was the average starting field position for that offense. You see when a team gets to go only 40 yards for a TD, it's easier than having to go 80! Fact!


Bruh you miles haters will use anything to bash LSU. I'm not gonna apologize for LSU having great special teams that put us in good field position. There is zero difference between an 80 yard drive and a 20 yard drive. You get 6 points , NO MATTER WHAT.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46614 posts
Posted on 1/4/13 at 6:53 pm to
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Meanwhile Saban loses his entire starting defense from 2011 and now is one win away from back to back national championships.


Yep thanks in large part to having to play 2 our of the top 5 teams in the SEC. While LSU had to play 4/5 of the top 5 teams.
Posted by Jaketigger
Baton Rouge Area
Member since Feb 2008
5064 posts
Posted on 1/4/13 at 6:55 pm to
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Posted by Message texastigerr Just so people realize, IT AINT STUD's Offense Assuming you know what you are talking about, whose decision is it to throw 3 times with 2:43 left and all you need is to run clock get a first down and you win the game? Who makes that decision?
I had no problem with the pass on second down considering Clemson had 9-10 in the box. The receiver was wide open for a nice game of about 5-10. Them you are getting at least a shot at a fg. It was mett's fault.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46614 posts
Posted on 1/4/13 at 6:55 pm to
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I wouldn't call a 13 point win over Oregon a curb stomp. That game wasn't decided until midway into the 4th quarter.


What? They scored a garbage TD with 7 seconds left. Damn. Y'all will try to discredit everything miles has done at LSU to try and make him look shitty.
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