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re: 12/23 Match Thread
Posted on 12/23/12 at 12:31 pm to Dandy Lion
Posted on 12/23/12 at 12:31 pm to Dandy Lion
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Posted on 12/23/12 at 12:33 pm to Dandy Lion
Rank in
2010–11 Club Revenue
(€ million) Country Rank in
2009–10 Mvmt
1 Real Madrid 479.5 Spain 1 —
2 Barcelona 450.7 Spain 2 —
3 Manchester United 367.0 England 3 —
4 Bayern Munich 321.4 Germany 4 —
5 Arsenal 251.1 England 5 —
6 Chelsea 249.8 England 6 —
7 Milan 235.1 Italy 7 —
8 Internazionale 211.4 Italy 9 +1
9 Liverpool 203.3 England 8 -1
10 Schalke 04 202.4 Germany 16 +6
This is 2010-2011 revenue numbers from Deloitte. Granted this is total revenue and takes into account shirt sales, sponsorships, etc.. But as I said the spanish super clubs have a pretty serious financial advantage. Maybe it's not primarily down to tv revenue, as I can't seem to find those numbers, but that's a pretty clear gap.
2010–11 Club Revenue
(€ million) Country Rank in
2009–10 Mvmt
1 Real Madrid 479.5 Spain 1 —
2 Barcelona 450.7 Spain 2 —
3 Manchester United 367.0 England 3 —
4 Bayern Munich 321.4 Germany 4 —
5 Arsenal 251.1 England 5 —
6 Chelsea 249.8 England 6 —
7 Milan 235.1 Italy 7 —
8 Internazionale 211.4 Italy 9 +1
9 Liverpool 203.3 England 8 -1
10 Schalke 04 202.4 Germany 16 +6
This is 2010-2011 revenue numbers from Deloitte. Granted this is total revenue and takes into account shirt sales, sponsorships, etc.. But as I said the spanish super clubs have a pretty serious financial advantage. Maybe it's not primarily down to tv revenue, as I can't seem to find those numbers, but that's a pretty clear gap.
Posted on 12/23/12 at 12:35 pm to TFTC
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They were in regards to certain people at LFC... Apparently Sayings from Spain... He blogged a lot on his website prior to his Chelsea hire...
Yeah he was being asked about Hodgson and his time at LFC I believe during one of his Inter UCL presses. I actually read several of his website blogs, he's a very interesting guy with a great perspective of the game.
Posted on 12/23/12 at 12:38 pm to TFTC
From Canal Plus? Yeah. He´s going down in a boat with a lunatic, and can´t believe it.
Like I said yesterday, I thought this was the long forgotten (in Iker´s case), but typìcally esposed, Christmas rest (unless it´s an important match, but it seems Casillas would play no matter how shitty the opponent).
Mourinho is in a tug of war with management, and is looking to get fired (so as to be indemnified).
fricking POS has wasted so much of the club´s time it´s unreal. Flo, too. He railroaded the translator in.
shite´s going down on Concha Espina, fo´sho´. I just hope RM doesn´t win the CL this year (quite likely, with the perfect ´us against the world ´storm a brewin´, ala Mou´s Inter di Milano luckfest). Not that I wouldn´t like to see Madrid win it all, but I can´t stomach the translator now, imagine then. He´d be absolutely, positively THE most unbearable thing on this planet. Then again, he´d probably leave, as I know he can´t handle the pressure at RM. Not many can.
Like I said yesterday, I thought this was the long forgotten (in Iker´s case), but typìcally esposed, Christmas rest (unless it´s an important match, but it seems Casillas would play no matter how shitty the opponent).
Mourinho is in a tug of war with management, and is looking to get fired (so as to be indemnified).
fricking POS has wasted so much of the club´s time it´s unreal. Flo, too. He railroaded the translator in.
shite´s going down on Concha Espina, fo´sho´. I just hope RM doesn´t win the CL this year (quite likely, with the perfect ´us against the world ´storm a brewin´, ala Mou´s Inter di Milano luckfest). Not that I wouldn´t like to see Madrid win it all, but I can´t stomach the translator now, imagine then. He´d be absolutely, positively THE most unbearable thing on this planet. Then again, he´d probably leave, as I know he can´t handle the pressure at RM. Not many can.
Posted on 12/23/12 at 12:44 pm to BobLoblaw
As I said, it´s 11M, and I doubt the gap is that wide, to be honest.
Posted on 12/23/12 at 12:45 pm to Dandy Lion
Who would be the favorite for the job? Klopp? Löw? Wenger? Rafa?
Gotta imagine that is Rafa's dream job. Wasn't he a youth at Madrid?
Gotta imagine that is Rafa's dream job. Wasn't he a youth at Madrid?
This post was edited on 12/23/12 at 12:47 pm
Posted on 12/23/12 at 12:46 pm to Dandy Lion
The gap is €112 million. Or atleast it was a year ago. That gap represents 31% of ManU's total revenue. No esta un poco, comprende?
This post was edited on 12/23/12 at 12:50 pm
Posted on 12/23/12 at 12:50 pm to BobLoblaw
quote:fricking speed and bacon, again.
BobLoblaw
You were talking about television revenue, now you´re referring to total revenue.
I´ll find the page I´m referring to. I believe it´s called The Swiss something or other.
Posted on 12/23/12 at 12:50 pm to LSUSOBEAST1
There's also Hiddink and Ancoletti, maybe Mancini if he leaves City.
Posted on 12/23/12 at 12:54 pm to Dandy Lion
Yes, but total revenue is a better measure of a teams ability to spend and therefore a better indicator of that teams expectations. After all, spending and success are more highly correlated in soccer than any other professional sport. RM and Barca have a major advantage when it comes to money in relation to any club in Europe. They should be challenging for Europe every year.
Eta: only mentioned tv money because I thought that was the source of the disparity of total revenue between English and Spanish clubs.
Eta: only mentioned tv money because I thought that was the source of the disparity of total revenue between English and Spanish clubs.
This post was edited on 12/23/12 at 12:59 pm
Posted on 12/23/12 at 12:56 pm to BobLoblaw
I´d saw Löw is the only one who would be welcome of all that are being mentioned.
Well, Wenger would as well, but I seriously doubt he´d entertain the thought.
Del Bosque would be the obvious target, and they´d (all aspiring presidents of the new project) would appeal to his Madridness and sense of duty and honor.
Rafa? I think he may have burned his bridges. Now, if he kicks butt at Chelsea, yeah, I could see him being accepted at Madrid.
Well, Wenger would as well, but I seriously doubt he´d entertain the thought.
Del Bosque would be the obvious target, and they´d (all aspiring presidents of the new project) would appeal to his Madridness and sense of duty and honor.
Rafa? I think he may have burned his bridges. Now, if he kicks butt at Chelsea, yeah, I could see him being accepted at Madrid.
Posted on 12/23/12 at 1:00 pm to BobLoblaw
quote:This all began based upon your TV revenue superiority assertion.
Yes, but total revenue is a better measure of a teams ability to spend
Again, when I was discussing this before you chimed in, I mentioned that this ´Spanish Giants´thing from a revenue generating standpoint, is the result of recent years, maybe 20% of the time he of the red face and purple nose has been at Manu.
Posted on 12/23/12 at 1:00 pm to Dandy Lion
Doubt Wenger would leave as well. Will VdB retire after he is done with Spain? Rafa has won 2 La Ligas and a CL. Wasn't he the last to win the league with a team other than Barca or Madrid?
Posted on 12/23/12 at 1:01 pm to Dandy Lion
Wenger would turn them down IMO. I thought about Del Bosque but you really think he'd return to club management?
I think Low would be a very interesting choice, would love to see him make the switch to club football.
I think Low would be a very interesting choice, would love to see him make the switch to club football.
Posted on 12/23/12 at 1:02 pm to LSUSOBEAST1
Yes, Rafa won two with Valencia.
Also, Ancelotti could be a possibility (good comment by someone earlier).
Also, Ancelotti could be a possibility (good comment by someone earlier).
Posted on 12/23/12 at 6:30 pm to Tweezy
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Randy literally doesn't give a frick how much they dominated this game; 3 points
No doubt, should have saved some for the future. Unless of course by some miracle we get back in the title race, +8 will help out the GD.
Serious question for anyone who watched that game. Have you ever seen such an arse kicking in a game? I honestly don't think I have. Wth was Villa doing? We scored 8 goals and really could have very very easily been 11 or 12.
How bad do you have to feel as a ref to call 2 pens when the other team is up 5-0 and 7-0?
This post was edited on 12/23/12 at 6:32 pm
Posted on 12/23/12 at 6:52 pm to RandySavage
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Serious question for anyone who watched that game. Have you ever seen such an arse kicking in a game?
No
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Wth was Villa doing?
Not defending very well
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How bad do you have to feel as a ref to call 2 pens when the other team is up 5-0 and 7-0?
I thought they were both soft, especially with the score what it was.
Posted on 12/24/12 at 8:25 am to Bho
quote:
I thought they were both soft, especially with the score what it was.
The first one reminded me of Drogba on Ribery in the CL final. I only saw a brief replay of the 2nd but at 7-0 unless he wrapped his arms around him and tackled him just let it go.
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