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re: Eric Gordon was playing chess while yall were thinking checkers

Posted on 12/21/12 at 10:36 pm to
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 12/21/12 at 10:36 pm to
If he comes back, plays up to expectations and stays relatively healthy, nobody will give a rat's arse about any of that crap.
Posted by Fearthehat0307
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2007
65256 posts
Posted on 12/21/12 at 10:38 pm to
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If he comes back, plays up to expectations and stays relatively healthy, nobody will give a rat's arse about any of that crap.
absolutely but that seems a big IF right now
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
80107 posts
Posted on 12/21/12 at 10:39 pm to
oh, i agree

i just thought it was interesting timing getting this story out right before he rejoins the team and will hear the boos

good work by his agent
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
63337 posts
Posted on 12/21/12 at 10:40 pm to
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absolutely but that seems a big IF right now


At some point after the New Year . . . a sixteen game winning streak. You'll see.
Posted by Fearthehat0307
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2007
65256 posts
Posted on 12/21/12 at 10:46 pm to
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At some point after the New Year . . . a sixteen game winning streak. You'll see.
which new year?
Posted by THRILLHO
Metry, LA
Member since Apr 2006
49486 posts
Posted on 12/21/12 at 11:39 pm to
Just finished an article posted in another thread.

quote:

Before the surgery, however, the Hornets attempted to sign Gordon to a contract extension, offering him a five-year contract at an average, a source said, of $13 million despite the fact that Gordon had played in only two games. The deadline to sign was 11 p.m. central time Jan. 25. “He wanted $13.5,” said the source. According to someone with knowledge of the negotiations, the Hornets offered a $500,000 bonus each year of the five-year deal if Gordon played 62 of the 82 regular-season games. Gordon declined, meaning he would become a restricted free agent and solicit offers on the open market.


So apparently the Hornets DID show him a shitload of "respect" before this offseason.
Posted by 42
Member since Apr 2012
3703 posts
Posted on 12/22/12 at 12:15 am to
Complete fabrication.

You can not tie salary or bonuses to number of games played. If you could, the owners could hold out players to save money when records are less important.
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
71431 posts
Posted on 12/22/12 at 12:26 am to

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"I just got to see the overall picture of what the future is going to be like. We can be possibly good.

He sounds thrilled for the future
This post was edited on 12/22/12 at 12:28 am
Posted by 42
Member since Apr 2012
3703 posts
Posted on 12/22/12 at 12:27 am to
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That's not what they're saying.


Really?

quote:

he Hornets offered a $500,000 bonus each year of the five-year deal if Gordon played 62 of the 82 regular-season games.


So what are they saying?
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
71431 posts
Posted on 12/22/12 at 12:29 am to
I'm saying Thrillho doesn't care about that part. The 13 he was offered for 2 games is what he's talking about.
Posted by 42
Member since Apr 2012
3703 posts
Posted on 12/22/12 at 12:33 am to
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I'm saying Thrillho doesn't care about that part. The 13 he was offered for 2 games is what he's talking about.


Oh, well I care about the part that's a complete fabrication and just may indicate that there's some other bad info if the source doesn't know the basics of NBA deals.

It's not like there aren't other issues there . . . like Gordon getting a 5 year extension. If he was getting 5 years at the max on the table, there's no way to reject it unless you were planning on signing the QO . . . it's the max possible and he was restricted.
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
71431 posts
Posted on 12/22/12 at 12:36 am to
Either way he probably should've just said "my bad" instead of trying to give his comments a flimsy defense.
Posted by brmark70816
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
9754 posts
Posted on 12/22/12 at 1:57 am to
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It's not like there aren't other issues there . . . like Gordon getting a 5 year extension. If he was getting 5 years at the max on the table, there's no way to reject it unless you were planning on signing the QO . . . it's the max possible and he was restricted


I don't think that is the max they could offer. Technically, Gordon never got the max from the Hornets. They could offer more than the Suns, but they just matched the Suns offer. The max would have been 5y/80m, like Westbrook got, right? A 4 year max would have been closer to 60, like Love got..
Posted by 42
Member since Apr 2012
3703 posts
Posted on 12/22/12 at 2:37 am to
The designated player gets 5 years at the max.

That the max. Different players can get different max deals because of tenure, but the max deal Love and Gordon got was the 4 year version that the designated players do not get. Westbrook got the designated player, 5y version.

So, if the 5y was offered, it was the max that anyone could offer. There's no reason to use a team to get more. The only reason you don't take it is to leave, and then you take the QO.

Again, the facts above are in error at least in part.
Posted by lsusportsman2
Member since Oct 2007
27232 posts
Posted on 12/22/12 at 1:48 pm to
I really really don't give a shite anymore. What's done is done. Gordon needs to quickly get healthy.
Posted by realtalk
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2011
2061 posts
Posted on 12/22/12 at 2:37 pm to
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Demps, who saw Gordon work out this week, said he could be back in the lineup in 7-10 days.


All we should focus on. He'll be back in a week and no longer than 2 weeks according to our GM. Not according to EG himself, his momma, our post game anaylist, or some other random fricker.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
35279 posts
Posted on 12/22/12 at 3:35 pm to
The one thing that really irked me with the EG saga was when he made it known that he didn't know what the R in RFA meant.
Posted by dcrews
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2011
30145 posts
Posted on 12/22/12 at 4:44 pm to
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so they didn't feel he was worthy of a max deal until someone else gave him one?

and he did what he had to do to go get that max deal?


It was a sound business decision by the Hornets. They knew Gordon wouldn't take anything less than the max. They were willing to offer it to him. HOWEVER, instead of just outright giving him a max deal, they wanted to see if they could save money, by seeing what the market was willing to offer.

Obviously the market was willing to dish out the max and the hornets got him anyway for the exact same price they planned on paying.

The Hornets only had money to gain in this situation, not money to lose.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
420799 posts
Posted on 12/22/12 at 5:57 pm to
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Why wouldn't the hornets want to save money?

while i agree it's not stupid to save money, it's very risky to come off as cheap to NBA players

you want to show these guys you'll blow your load on them. that's how you gain credibility with the league

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