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Posted on 3/11/13 at 2:21 pm to brass2mouth
What makes/defines an M4?
Posted on 3/11/13 at 2:23 pm to Chad504boy
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What makes/defines an M4?
Are you referring to the difference between it and an M16?
Posted on 3/11/13 at 2:25 pm to brass2mouth
what makes a rifle a m4...? opposing to anything... a regular ar 15 or whatever.
Posted on 3/11/13 at 2:30 pm to Chad504boy
The grooves that guide the round into the chamber are bigger/longer. Less likely to jam.
Posted on 3/11/13 at 2:35 pm to Chad504boy
Well, the M16 is a rifle with an 20in barrel, the M4 variant is in the rifle in carbine family with a 14.5" barrel. The M4 variant also came off the assembly line with a collapsible stock while the 16 came with a fixed butt stock.
Both have similar max effective range with the 16 being 550m and the m4 500m, and there are some differences in muzzle velocity as well that I can't remember off the top of my head.
Both have similar max effective range with the 16 being 550m and the m4 500m, and there are some differences in muzzle velocity as well that I can't remember off the top of my head.
Posted on 3/11/13 at 2:37 pm to brass2mouth
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Well, the M16 is a rifle with an 20in barrel, the M4 variant is in the rifle in carbine family with a 14.5" barrel. The M4 variant also came off the assembly line with a collapsible stock while the 16 came with a fixed butt stock.
Both have similar max effective range with the 16 being 550m and the m4 500m, and there are some differences in muzzle velocity as well that I can't remember off the top of my head.
Daniel Defense makes M4's with 16 inch barrels though.
Posted on 3/11/13 at 2:39 pm to Chad504boy
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Daniel Defense makes M4's with 16 inch barrels though.
BC for you to own a rifle under 16" as a civilian you need a federal permit, so for commercial purposes they make a 16" variant to make money.
Posted on 3/11/13 at 2:40 pm to brass2mouth
oh so you can't own a true m4 as a civilian thats the 14.5inch barrel?
Posted on 3/11/13 at 2:42 pm to Chad504boy
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oh so you can't own a true m4 as a civilian thats the 14.5inch barrel?
Yeah you can, you just gotta pay the $$ for the permit, I think its $200. Thats how guys are making 9" 300 black out CQB rifles and what not.
Posted on 3/11/13 at 2:46 pm to brass2mouth
similar to owning/purchasing a suppressor?
Posted on 3/11/13 at 2:59 pm to Chad504boy
Yes.
Posted on 3/11/13 at 3:33 pm to brass2mouth
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Yeah you can, you just gotta pay the $$ for the permit, I think its $200. Thats how guys are making 9" 300 black out CQB rifles and what not.
FWIW, as long as the overall barrel length is 16", your "barrel" can be as long a you want.
For example, there are guys running 11.5" barrels with a 5.5" flash hider that is permanently attached. Total barrel length is 16"
I run a 14.5" barrel with a permanently attached flash hider for a total length of 16". Its perfectly legal with no tax stamp.
Yes, the most popular class 3 tax stamp is $200.
Posted on 3/11/13 at 3:45 pm to kengel2
Botach strikes again, got an email saying the order i placed was on backorder. This is in regards to the $45 gen3 pmag 3 pack btw.
Posted on 3/11/13 at 3:53 pm to Soul Gleaux
fricking same
Posted on 3/11/13 at 3:57 pm to kengel2
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FWIW, as long as the overall barrel length is 16", your "barrel" can be as long a you want.
For example, there are guys running 11.5" barrels with a 5.5" flash hider that is permanently attached. Total barrel length is 16"
I run a 14.5" barrel with a permanently attached flash hider for a total length of 16". Its perfectly legal with no tax stamp.
Yes, the most popular class 3 tax stamp is $200.
Yeah I'm aware, but a 5.5" flash hider is just ignorant and serves no purpose other than making a 10.5" barrel legal.
I get your point and I guess I should have stated that info in my OP.
Posted on 3/11/13 at 3:57 pm to Soul Gleaux
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Botach
Posted on 3/11/13 at 4:07 pm to brass2mouth
Botach can suck it. Just got the email too. On the same note, anyone heard from delta3outfitters yet?
Posted on 3/11/13 at 4:18 pm to 1860pissed
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On the same note, anyone heard from delta3outfitters yet?
No, but on their website it says to give them 10-15 days for shipping of in-stock items.
Posted on 3/11/13 at 4:21 pm to 1860pissed
My order came in, and I think TTT got his in.
ETA- I thought that was the Strongside, my bad. No idea with the delta3order
ETA- I thought that was the Strongside, my bad. No idea with the delta3order
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