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Can the College Football Ranking System improve with the Playoff System
Posted on 12/14/12 at 8:27 pm
Posted on 12/14/12 at 8:27 pm
Here we have Alabama-an almost 10 point favorite over the Number 1 ranked Team-with almost every talking head sportscaster saying every high ranked SEC team would be favored over ND.--LSU also! Do you really think the new playoff system will improve this mess? The current ranking system has no credibility and I see no signs of improvement with the playoff system.
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Posted on 12/14/12 at 8:50 pm to kew48
No, but it'll make the LSU's, UGAs, Oregon's and such shut up... And I mean that in a way of saying no one can bitch... If the number 10 team is saying what about us they can go suck a d**k...
This year, along with the last few, deserved at least an 8 team playoff
This year, along with the last few, deserved at least an 8 team playoff
Posted on 12/14/12 at 8:50 pm to kew48
The media will still lobby for what teams they want in the playoffs... 4 teams will have a chance instead of 2. Bias will continue to be a major flaw.
Posted on 12/14/12 at 9:12 pm to RBWilliams8
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The media will still lobby for what teams they want in the playoffs... 4 teams will have a chance instead of 2. Bias will continue to be a major flaw.
The media has way too much power. It will improve when they form the super conferences they want. NFL style is the ultimate goal I believe.
Posted on 12/14/12 at 9:13 pm to RileyTime
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This year, along with the last few, deserved at least an 8 team playoff
This post was edited on 12/14/12 at 9:14 pm
Posted on 12/14/12 at 9:15 pm to Siderophore
but yes
Posted on 12/14/12 at 10:31 pm to High C
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Posted on 12/14/12 at 10:51 pm to jmarto1
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NFL style
One can only hope
Posted on 12/14/12 at 11:17 pm to Siderophore
Why are you laughing? FCS, D2 and D3 do it without any issues at all. The exams and academic excuses are the biggest joke. What is it going to take for a national talking head to admit that the only thing preventing it is money?
Posted on 12/15/12 at 1:34 am to kew48
just b/c theyre a favorite doesn't mean anything. So you would rank Alabama over ND right now just based on a spread?
Posted on 12/15/12 at 7:16 am to tiger in the gump
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Tiger in the gump
what kind of name is this?
Posted on 12/15/12 at 7:53 am to RileyTime
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No, but it'll make the LSU's, UGAs, and Oregon's and such shut up
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This year, along with the last few, deserved at least an 8 team playoff
Then how would make a team like LSU, or others like it, "shut up"?
Posted on 12/15/12 at 2:25 pm to shutterspeed
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just b/c theyre a favorite doesn't mean anything. So you would rank Alabama over ND right now just based on a spread?
--NO perhaps not-but most of the various folks who also cast ballots in the various polls (and vote ND #1) also choose Alabama as the winner of the game and opine that the other top ranked SEC teams would also be favored to win. Where is the logic in that my friend!!
just b/c theyre a favorite doesn't mean anything. So you would rank Alabama over ND right now just based on a spread?
--NO perhaps not-but most of the various folks who also cast ballots in the various polls (and vote ND #1) also choose Alabama as the winner of the game and opine that the other top ranked SEC teams would also be favored to win. Where is the logic in that my friend!!
Posted on 12/15/12 at 3:58 pm to NDA13112
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What is it going to take for a national talking head to admit that the only thing preventing it is GREED?
FIFY
Posted on 12/15/12 at 6:30 pm to mikedatyger
It will NEVER be a true playoff. When it is finalized there will be a limit on how many schools per conference get in the playoff. No matter whether its 4, 8, or 16. The lesser conferences (the other 5 and ND) will guarantee themselves a shot.
Posted on 12/15/12 at 7:01 pm to kew48
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--NO perhaps not-but most of the various folks who also cast ballots in the various polls (and vote ND #1) also choose Alabama as the winner of the game and opine that the other top ranked SEC teams would also be favored to win. Where is the logic in that my friend!
so what you suggest then base rankings on all these guys on t.v. "speculating" on who they think will win? Disregard the BCS ranking system, which is 10x more comprehensive than some talking head, and had 14 years to evolve
This post was edited on 12/15/12 at 7:06 pm
Posted on 12/15/12 at 9:40 pm to tiger in the gump
It's all speculation my friend! At least when you're speculating, don't insult us with your rankings and then say -I don't think my number one ranked team will win the game. I'm not suggesting that these guys know any more than any one else-just dont insult us with your rankings-Many of these talking heads vote in various rankings. The BCS is no different!- The coaches pool is a joke! The computer rankings are a joke! What's your solution? I say have a playoff system that goes beyond 4 teams-at least 8-10 with a pre-determined process for ranking the teams--at least 60-70% of the total rank-- then perhaps select the other 30-40 % weighting from a select group of non (talking head-ESPN or other sports broadcasting self interest groups) This later group will be a major challange-What ever group is selected will have a natural bias.-Perhaps a large enough group will help moderate the bias. What you say Einstein?
Posted on 12/16/12 at 11:09 am to kew48
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say have a playoff system that goes beyond 4 teams-at least 8-10 with a pre-determined process for ranking the teams--at least 60-70% of the total rank-- then perhaps select the other 30-40 % weighting from a select group of non (talking head-ESPN or other sports broadcasting self interest groups) This later group will be a major challange-What ever group is selected will have a natural bias.-Perhaps a large enough group will help moderate the bias. What you say Einstein?
there is a pre-determined process it's called the BCS. Yeah your ranking system is better than the BCS formula, which had 14 years to evolve, comprehends every faucet of analysis that the best statisticians, pollsters, and football minds have agreed upon. And that "select group" you're speaking of is the Harris poll. but let me guess you have implemented some type of playoff system before and it worked wonders
Posted on 12/16/12 at 5:28 pm to tiger in the gump
The Harris poll is exactly one of the polls that contains coaches-media types etc. that rank a team higher than a team they may be playing and then turn around and say that team has no chance of beating the lower ranked team.(Case in point ND and Alabama)--No credibility whatsoever. I'm not a Bama fan, but I think that example is a great one. Your're not going to get many poeple to agree with you that the BCS has been sucessful. That's why it's being overwhelmingly booted out the door. The reason it's been around 14 years is not because of it's great success as you unfortunately believe but because there was a contract in place for it and there were too many groups making too much money from that process. It got to the point where public outrage forced a much need change.
Posted on 12/16/12 at 9:01 pm to kew48
As long as mark Womack or some other POS bama grad is not in charge
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