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do you put diced tomatoes in seafood gumbo?

Posted on 12/13/12 at 11:55 am
Posted by AboveGroundPool
the basin
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Posted on 12/13/12 at 11:55 am
when making a seafood gumbo from scratch do you use diced tomatoes at all? why or why not? i'll hang up and listen
Posted by Zappas Stache
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Posted on 12/13/12 at 11:56 am to
No...Why? Because Mawmaw didn't.
Posted by HungryTiger
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2006
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Posted on 12/13/12 at 11:57 am to
Prepare your anus
Posted by Count Chocula
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Posted on 12/13/12 at 11:57 am to
And here we go.........

Round 3 of Carson's mystery chicken.
Posted by AboveGroundPool
the basin
Member since Aug 2010
3769 posts
Posted on 12/13/12 at 11:58 am to
i already know you don't...trying to prove a point
Posted by Tigerpaw123
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2007
17250 posts
Posted on 12/13/12 at 12:02 pm to
quote:

No...Why? Because Mawmaw didn't.


Yes...Why? Because MaMaw did (stewed tomatoes anyway)
Posted by shawnlsu
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 12/13/12 at 12:06 pm to
No because Granny would spin in her grave if I had tomatoes within 50 feet of a gumbo pot. And it's nasty
Posted by Gris Gris
OTIS!NO RULES FOR SAUCES ON STEAK!!
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Posted on 12/13/12 at 12:09 pm to
No
Posted by CHEDBALLZ
South Central LA
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 12/13/12 at 12:09 pm to
I like them both ways, I've never made a Gumbo with tomatoes in it though.
Posted by Tommy Patel
Member since Apr 2006
7558 posts
Posted on 12/13/12 at 12:30 pm to
half my recipes i have and use call for at least •2 tomatoes, peeled & chopped. My wife is allergic to tomatoes so I have omitted the tomatoes and replace the missing liquid with chicken or beef broth or other liquids already in the recipe. You could also replace the tomatoes with other veggies like bell peppers, onion or summer squash—perhaps just increasing veggies already used in the recipe.

Besh says no, Emeril does sometimes, allrecipe.com 1/2 yes, most recipes usually add tomatoes when they add Okra, that I've noticed.


This post was edited on 12/13/12 at 12:37 pm
Posted by AboveGroundPool
the basin
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 12/13/12 at 12:35 pm to
an authentic Louisiana Cajun seafood gumbo does not call for tomatos, you should make a seafood stock no matter what
Posted by HungryTiger
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2006
724 posts
Posted on 12/13/12 at 12:39 pm to
I'm sorry, but if you put tomatoes in gumbo you're making a bastardized version of the dish. Tomato is not an ingredient in gumbo.

quote:

or summer squash


In gumbo? What's this board coming to?
This post was edited on 12/13/12 at 12:41 pm
Posted by Tommy Patel
Member since Apr 2006
7558 posts
Posted on 12/13/12 at 12:41 pm to
quote:

an authentic Louisiana Cajun seafood gumbo does not call for tomatos, you should make a seafood stock no matter what


agreed, the real argument seems to be with the use of Okra and Filet powder. I'm from N.LA I'll yeild to whatever y'all say. I'm cool either way.

Seafood Gumbo Recipe Ingredients
Seafood Gumbo Recipe Ingredients to serve 4-6


1 tablespoon butter (not margarine)


2 cloves garlic

1/4 cup each- chopped celery and chopped green bell pepper

1/2 pound chopped okra

1/2 pound andouille sausage (kielbasa can be used as a substitute)

3 tablespoons butter

1/2 pound boneless chicken thighs

3 tablespoons flour (all-purpose)

1 cup water

1 cup beef broth

2 cups chicken broth

1 pound peeled and deveined shrimp (can substitute crab, scallops or crawdads)

1 teaspoon each- parsley and thyme

2 tablespoons Creole seasoning

1 bay leaf

salt to taste

cayenne pepper to taste (about 1/8 teaspoon is about average heat)

1/4 teaspoon hot sauce (again, adjust according to your personal tastes)

1 cup uncooked rice

File powder, optional (highly recommended, though)
Posted by TIGRLEE
Northeast Louisiana
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 12/13/12 at 12:43 pm to
Gumbo with stewed/diced tomatoes doesn't bother me.
Had it with and without, certainly not a deal breaker and not as bad as some here would have you to believe.
This post was edited on 12/13/12 at 12:51 pm
Posted by Gris Gris
OTIS!NO RULES FOR SAUCES ON STEAK!!
Member since Feb 2008
47332 posts
Posted on 12/13/12 at 12:44 pm to
quote:

summer squash


I'm speechless.

quote:

allrecipe.com


The premier authority on Cajun and Louisiana cooking.

HungryTiger
quote:

In gumbo? What's this board coming to?


I think they're trying to bait me or get my blood pressure to rise. I tried so hard just to answer the original question with one word, but....










Posted by Tommy Patel
Member since Apr 2006
7558 posts
Posted on 12/13/12 at 12:45 pm to
quote:

quote:


or summer squash




In gumbo? What's this board coming to?


it was UPD substitution, you caught me thinkin outside the box
Posted by Tigerpaw123
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2007
17250 posts
Posted on 12/13/12 at 12:46 pm to
quote:

I'm sorry, but if you put tomatoes in gumbo you're making a bastardized version of the dish. Tomato is not an ingredient in gumbo


Says who?
Posted by AboveGroundPool
the basin
Member since Aug 2010
3769 posts
Posted on 12/13/12 at 12:51 pm to
quote:

1 tablespoon butter (not margarine)
quote:

1 cup beef broth

2 cups chicken brot


i dunno man, i'm not knocking you but...i hope you start with a real roux, and the next time you cook this make a seafood stock and substitute it for the broth...i don't see crabs or oysters in there...(oysters either way)

would also definitely leave the chicken and the crawfish out

im iffy on okra...don't particularly like the taste, and correct on cajuns not using it
This post was edited on 12/13/12 at 1:03 pm
Posted by Tommy Patel
Member since Apr 2006
7558 posts
Posted on 12/13/12 at 12:54 pm to
quote:

I'm sorry, but if you put tomatoes in gumbo you're making a bastardized version of the dish. Tomato is not an ingredient in gumbo


it is in Creole recipes which differ slightly from the New Orleans French or Spanish influences.also where we get the Okra ingredient from the African influence and Okra and tomatoes go together well.

I know its semantics for me but I don't see a few tomatoes making a big difference.

that is all
Posted by Tommy Patel
Member since Apr 2006
7558 posts
Posted on 12/13/12 at 12:58 pm to
quote:

i dunno man, i'm not knocking you but...i hope you start with a real roux, and the next time you cook this make a seafood stock and substitute it for the broth...i don't see crabs or oysters in there...(oysters either way)


I saw that too, but thats the recipe I got from the New orleans cook book. probably the Bastardized NOLA cookbook for yankees
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